EAP245-->R200 extender-->ethernet-->EAP225--Good idea? Suggested improvements?
EAP245-->R200 extender-->ethernet-->EAP225--Good idea? Suggested improvements?
I have a tight spot on the fourth floor of my small rowhouse-based office in dense and noisy downtown Philadelphia. The 2.4 Ghz spectrum is useless because of crowding, so I am relying solely on 5 Ghz. My third floor EAP245 access point reaches the 4th floor with around -75 or even -79 dbm signal, which is great most of the time but then cuts out during bad conditions or in certain corners. I would like to have a dedicated access point on the fourth floor, but I have no ethernet up there. What's a good solution?
1. I have tried putting an RE200 range extender in an outlet that is in between the 3d floor EAP245 and the 4th floor--I get -71 dbm signal on the RE200, and great signal on the fourth floor. It's the only range extender on ths system, it works fairly well, but it seems to get a few hiccups sometimes.
1a. Should I consider replacing the RE200 in the same spot with an EAP225 in mesh mode?
2. I am currently experimenting with the RE200 range extender directly across the room from the third floor access point, then an ethernet cable running up the stairwell (about 10 meters) to the 4th floor. (Hence the title of this post). Seems to work so far, haven't tested long enough to see if it is bulletproof.
2a. If 2 seems to be working well, I might consider replacing the RE200 with another EAP245.
Any recommendations or cautions/tips for me among these options would be most appreciated!
Note: the entire network consists of an Archer C7 router with WiFi off, an Omada hardware controller, and a small collection of EAP 245s and 225s wired in via ethernet to the router (through PoE injectors).
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Thanks so much for detailed feedback and info. In sum: mesh mode cuts bandwidth in half for 5Ghz if the mesh access points are also used for clients, because their backhaul channel is necessarily the same as their client channel. To remedy this, use back-to-back hardwired EAP225s on each end of the mesh link and disable client access to the mesh units:
router---eap225withclients---eap225noclients)) ((eap225noclients---eap225)) ((clients
Also: it turns out clients listen to each other and cooperate to limit collisions: if they hear a competing client talking they pause. If clients can't hear each other for whatever reason, they can't cooperate in this way and they collide, which jams up the AP a little. This is the "hidden node problem". To remedy this: only allow clients to share a band when they can hear each other. Mesh frustrates this aim, because again the EAP mesh architecture (perhaps suboptimally) uses the same 5ghz band for clients and for backhaul, and clients on the opposite far sides of each access point probably can't hear each other. The above remedy addresses this. But also I think another solution does too in my case (although this retains the half bandwidth problem):
router----EAP225withclients))) (((EAP225noclients----EAP225))) (((clients
Question: in Omada controller, how do I keep clients off of an access point?
Note: the latter approach is analogous to my current set up, which is close to 100mps, so it seems promising and slightly reduces the number of APs hanging out everywhere.
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werdnawerdna wrote
Question: in Omada controller, how do I keep clients off of an access point?
You cannot prevent that clients discover your AP during a WiFi survey. Once you send out a beacon, every client can receive it (think of the AP being a lighthouse).
To prevent clients from associating with the WLAN you just use encryption and an encryption key.
You could also hide the ESSID, but the BSSID of the AP will still be visible for WiFi analyzers (not shown in ordinary WiFi surveys).
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For the record: I ended up putting an EAP225 in pretty much the same spot the RE200 range extender had been halfway between the 4th floor and 3d floor--it is now in mesh mode with the Omada controller. The EAP225 gets much better signal than the RE200 did, and provide great signal and speed to the entire 4th floor. The setup is now:
internet------router--------EAP225_clients_and_mesh ))) ((( EAP225 ))) clients
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