Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?

Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?

Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?
Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?
3 weeks ago - last edited 11 hours ago
Model: Deco XE75 Pro  
Hardware Version: V3
Firmware Version: 1.1.3

I mean, wow.

 

It's not often I take to forums and bother to comment but the sheer incompetence and unreliabiliy of TP-Link and their Deco mesh systems is breathtaking.

 

Previously I ran a XE50.  Had plenty of problems with that thing - needed a better wireless backhaul as wired is not an option for me.

 

Enter XE-75 pro.  Wow, what a mistake.

 

As it kept falling over, I spent countless hours posting logs into Gemini which pointed me in the direction of disabling most of the functions that make the units supposedly state of the art.  Beamforming - off.  Fast Roaming - Off.  Mesh Technology - Off.  Standard troubleshooting when you contact TP-Link support.  Just disable these features.  Done that.

 

Second node still falls over at random.

 

Update the firmware.  Yes, done that...

 

Still falls over at random.

 

So today I thought, lets feed the logs into Gemini again as I'm not Linux guru.  Sure I'm an ex-CCNA and MCSE so kinda know my stuff when it comes to networking but not Linux subsystems which this POS runs off as do many routers and appliances.

 

Boot errors, syntax errors, missing files.  I mean is it any wonder that these things fall over.  The scripters actually writing the code are pushing out updates globally with syntax errors and missing files.

 

From my bootup earlier (having faller over yet again) due to the DHCP service filling its own logs and RAM up with an error.  Despite DHCP being disabled on the Decos as I'm using DHCP on my own router.  Decos are just in AP mode.  The ONLY job they have to do it act as an AP which seems a little too heavy for them.  Still they continue to spam their own logs with DHCP errors every few seconds until they run out of memory / storage.

 

client_mgmt: element type is not option:3

 

Because it prints that error to the system memory every few seconds, day in and day out, it acts like a slow dripping tap into a plugged sink. Eventually, the router's tiny RAM pool fills up entirely, leading to a 'memfree less than 10000 KB crash'  causing the whole thing to go belly up.

 

OK, I'll reboot, shouldn't have to - my CISCO routers stay up for years at a time.  Rebooting does not fix errors, only clears out caches etc.  If everything is healthy a router shouldn't need rebooting at all save for firmware updates.  But upon bootup of this heap o' crap:

 

 

 

FFS TP-Link.  Sort your firmware out.  Sort your typos out.  Give us ONE firmware that actually works.  

 

I have a wide mixture fo devices using an IOT network, 5 GHZ, 2.4 GHZ, 6 GHZ.  Nothing uncommon though.  Android & iPhones.  WiFi Camera / Doorbell.  SONOS system.  SONOFF / TP LInk Smart plugs.  Washing Machine.  DYSON fan.  Google Home devices.  Laptops.  Firestick.  Smart TV.  SMART Hygrometer.  PS5 that REFUSES to connect to any Deco wirelessly, point blank  I had to cable it.

 

This is commonplace in the modern home and yet literally every device has to be troubleshot due to the logs showing errors all over the place.  It's enough to drive you mad.  Eventually the DECOs just give up and fall over as they strangle themselves in logs and association errors.

 

I say this, TP Link.  Your Deco firmwares are absolute garbage.  The paying public deserve better than tyou rolling out update files riddled with typos and errors.  I'm at the point of replacing for the 3rd time.  My next system will not be TP-Link.

 

Theres ALWAYS a problem wih some device.  I just want a solution that works.  

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Re:Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?-Solution
2 weeks ago - last edited 11 hours ago

  @rhbmcse 

Hi,
First of all, thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed observations and log snippets. I fully understand your frustration with the instability you're experiencing with the Deco XE75 Pro. However, we are unable to determine the root cause of the instability based on the information provided. It would be appreciated if you could confirm the following information for further analysis:
  1. Is your Deco XE75 Pro's firmware version 1.3.1 Build 20251023 Rel. 47884?
  2. Please describe your network diagram. How many Deco nodes do you have?
  3. Approximate frequency of the satellite Deco drop events. When the drop event occurs, what's the LED status on the main Deco and the satellite Deco? Are the client devices connected to the Deco network but have no internet access?
  4. After the drop event occurs, please refer to the instructions below to send us the Deco app log and save the Deco system log for analysis.
      How to Get and Send Deco App Log to TP-Link Support
      How to Get Deco System Log
After you send us the log file, please feel free to let me know. I'll then consult the case with the relevant team.

 

Thank you for your cooperation and patience.

 

Best Regards

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Re:Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?
3 weeks ago - last edited 3 weeks ago

For some reason the forum filters will not allow me to post the startup errors, claiming that standard Linux directories are not permitted. I'll keep trying..

 

CRITICAL FIRMWARE BUGS IDENTIFIED IN BOOT LOG:

1. Script Syntax Error in Boot Sequence:
**removed for filters**: /etc/rc.d/S48luarsa_keys_gen: line 10: syntax error: unexpected "}"
/bin/sh: can't open **removed for filters

2. Missing Hardware Calibration Directory:
ln: /lib/firmware/qcn9100/caldata_1.bin: No such file or directory
ln: /lib/firmware/qcn9100/caldata_2.bin: No such file or directory

3. Infinitely Loop-Crashing Daemon (Causes RAM Exhaustion / Memory Leak):
IMPROXY: FATAL[init_interface@251]: exiting..... (Repeating constantly every 5 seconds)

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Re:Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?
3 weeks ago

So following a reboot, the logs are again filling with the element type is not option:3 error

 

This log segment is incredible because it shows the exact moment the router's brain fractured right before the Sonos loop took over.

Here is the anatomy of the crash at 12:05:36, broken down by what went wrong:

Phase 1: The Band Steering Crash (nrd daemon)

The log starts with absolute chaos from a background system called nrd (Network Resource Daemon). This is the piece of TP-Link’s software responsible for Mesh roaming and Band Steering (forcing devices to smoothly switch between 2.4GHz and 5GHz, or transition between your two Deco units).

Plaintext

nrd[15895]: stadbUpdateLinkPriorityBlackList: Failed to update black list.
nrd[15895]: send cmd: 35820 ioctl failed
  • What happened: The router tried to update its "blacklist" (a temporary internal list of which devices should be blocked from a specific node or frequency to force them to roam to a better one).

  • The failure: The command failed completely (ioctl failed). It tried to run it dozens of times in the exact same second, spamming the log.

Phase 2: The Core Network Driver Unravels (12:06:12)

A few seconds later, the driver completely lost contact with the physical Wi-Fi chips:

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nrd[30979]: send_mesh_band_steering_ioctl: ioctl failed, cmd: 45
nrd[30979]: qca_get_phy_cap_info: get phy cap info failed

The router asked its internal Qualcomm network driver (qca) for the physical capabilities of the Wi-Fi hardware, and the driver responded with an error. The router’s mesh steering software essentially lost its map of the hardware.

Phase 3: The Mass Disconnect and the Sonos Loop Start (12:06:45)

Because the mesh steering software completely crashed, the router panicked and forcefully dropped multiple devices to try and clear the airwaves. Look at this rapid-fire cascade at 12:06:46:

  • Device 38-42-0B-86-63-D4 -> Disassociated

  • Device 48-A6-B8-DF-45-D0 -> Disassociated

  • Device 70-70-AA-20-A2-C2 -> Disassociated

  • Your Sonos Speaker (34-7E-5C-40-08-DC) -> Disassociated

  • Device 34-7E-5C-40-05-30 (Another Sonos component nearby!) -> Disassociated

The moment the network collapsed, every single device tried to instantly reconnect at once.

At 12:07:04, your Sonos Right Speaker (08:DC) successfully reconnected (client_action:associate). And the literal exact same second it rejoined the broken network stack, the loop locked into place:

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Fri Jul 17 12:07:04 2026 daemon.err client_mgmt: element type is not option:3
Fri Jul 17 12:07:20 2026 daemon.err client_mgmt: element type is not option:3
Fri Jul 17 12:07:36 2026 daemon.err client_mgmt: element type is not option:3

The Takeaway

This tells us that the option:3 loop isn't what causes the initial network drop.

Instead, TP-Link's mesh roaming software (nrd) crashes first because it fails to update its hardware routing tables. Once that crashes and the wireless radios reset, the Sonos speaker reconnects, floods the already-broken router code with its heavy sync traffic, and traps the router in that infinite option:3 memory leak.

This is gold-standard troubleshooting data. If you send this entire block to TP-Link support, they can't blame your house, your walls, or your setup. Their internal roaming daemon is failing a basic system call (ioctl), which is a 100% pure firmware bug.

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Re:Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?
3 weeks ago - last edited 3 weeks ago

  @rhbmcse Sadly, this is the game. Announce and release a bleeding edge hardware at a cheap price. The catch, released with half the features missing and lots and lots of bugs, that may or may not ever get fixed. Tiny team working with very old code.  Option 2, pay 5 x as much for ubi** or similar, and get a product that just stays working for years at a time without a reboot. The former appears to be TPlinks business model (and many similar others). Most are found at the low end of pricing. It's commonplace now, not just with PC componments, but many tech related products. Yes - It's as annoying as hell. There are so many deco hardwares now - It's kind of ridiculous.

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3 weeks ago

  @rhbmcse 

 

Sorry that I didn't see this post sooner. There is a brand new beta firmware currently in testing for your XE75 Pro. I recommend trying the new beta first to see if it fixes the issue you have thoroughly detailed in this post. You can find a link to the beta below. 

 

Firmware 1.4.0 for Deco XE75/XE5300/XE75 Pro_V2/V3 Added Wi-Fi Access Control, WireGuard VPN & More

 

Please note. The Beta firmware versions can’t be degraded directly to the previous 1.3.1/1.2.9, etc. versions.

 

If the issue you described above isn't fixed with the beta firmware please reply back to this post so we can collect your logs and get them over to one of the senior engineers to see if they can figure out what the issue is.

 

Thanks. 

Need help with the Deco app, setup, Ethernet backhaul, network switch or rolling back firmware? Router or AP mode? https://community.tp-link.com/us/home/forum/topic/699816?page=1
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Re:Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?
2 weeks ago

  @HelpFixDecoApp 

 

I know not whether you are a TP-LINK employee.  Irrespectively, and this is not directed at you, rather at TP-LINK as a company.  I didn't buy an upgrade from my X50 to the XE75 pro to become a beta tester, and looking at the amount of problems that people are having with that particular firmware, I wouldn't want to upgrade anyway.

 

I have a home filled with IOT devices, as many people do these days.  There is an expectation that when you buy a pair of DECOs, purely to act as APs and nothing more, that they will just work.  The fact that one cannot get what is surely one of the most commonplace wireless devices to work (PS5) with a XE75pro wirelessly, I feel is quite embarrassing for TP LINK.

 

I don't want to spend hours on forums trying to get my network devices working, applying beta fixes etc.  I just want them, and expect them to work.  It is not my responsibility to continuously upload logs and tell TP LINK what they should already know.

 

Obscure devices, could be forgiven for not workig or playing well with a WIFI system.  SONOS systems and PS5s are really inexusible.

 

I made an error in buying another TP-LINK system.  I should have gone with another company but was pulled in by the cheap pricing and high hardware specs.  That was my mistake for which I take full responsibility.  It is not a mistake I will make again.  I can only hope that TP-LINK get their act together and finally give  us a firmware that works, without sloppy typos (unforgiveable) and missing files.  

 

Very poor, TP-LINK.

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Re:Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?-Solution
2 weeks ago - last edited 11 hours ago

  @rhbmcse 

Hi,
First of all, thank you for taking the time to provide such detailed observations and log snippets. I fully understand your frustration with the instability you're experiencing with the Deco XE75 Pro. However, we are unable to determine the root cause of the instability based on the information provided. It would be appreciated if you could confirm the following information for further analysis:
  1. Is your Deco XE75 Pro's firmware version 1.3.1 Build 20251023 Rel. 47884?
  2. Please describe your network diagram. How many Deco nodes do you have?
  3. Approximate frequency of the satellite Deco drop events. When the drop event occurs, what's the LED status on the main Deco and the satellite Deco? Are the client devices connected to the Deco network but have no internet access?
  4. After the drop event occurs, please refer to the instructions below to send us the Deco app log and save the Deco system log for analysis.
      How to Get and Send Deco App Log to TP-Link Support
      How to Get Deco System Log
After you send us the log file, please feel free to let me know. I'll then consult the case with the relevant team.

 

Thank you for your cooperation and patience.

 

Best Regards

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Re:Deco = the most unreliable Mesh WiFi on the market ?
2 weeks ago

  @Solla-topee 

 

Yes my Deco firmware is exactly the one that you mentioned below. It is fully up to date there are no more updates available. 

 

I have two Deco nodes one master which is connected to my router. 

 

The router is handling DHCP not the decos. 

 

Connectivity between the two decores relies on a combination of 2.4 gigahertz 5 gigahertz and 6 gigahertz wireless back hole as there is no option in my apartment to run a cable between the two units. 

 

Connection between the two units reports as three bars - full - with the occasional fall back to two having said that I have a 900 megabits per second internet connection and either Deco node will do that comfortably. 

 

The deco's will stay up for a random amount of time there is no specific time lapse before the satellite deco which is in the living room will go red. At this point the satellite deco loses connectivity to the primary Deco connected to the router. It appears that the log is getting filled by the repeated same error which over time causes the secondary Deco to fall over at random. 

 

I can happily provide logs but what I will say is that they don't make happy Reading. There are continuous errors from multiple devices that are not happy even though every single function is disabled every device has mesh networking disabled and the network itself has beamforning and seamless roaming disabled. 

 

I will send logs over next time it falls over.  Sometimes it recovers but it's only a matter of time before then it goes solid red and loses its connection altogether. 

 

It would have been really nice to be able to collect logs without having to go into the web interface given that the entire ecosystem is basically managed by your mobile phone. 

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2 weeks ago

@Solla-topee

 

Logs just sent.

 

Apologies - Had not realised that this could be done from the app.

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2 weeks ago
Your satellite Deco went red because it lost its network connection to the Main Deco, and those logs record the exact sequence where its backhaul link collapsed. Here is the step-by-step autopsy of what happened leading up to the red light: What the Logs Show Memory Buffers Crashed First (21:09:20 & 21:13:21) The log repeatedly hits wlanifBSteerEventsBufRdCB: Read error! # bytes=0 and firewall failure messages (domain_login_rule: No such file or directory). The background system processes managing node communication got corrupted or ran out of working memory. The Client Handoffs Started Failing (21:13:41) Right after the firewall/uhttpd glitch at 21:13:21, the satellite node forcefully disconnected its active client devices (hostapd_notif_disassoc num_sta 9). Total Backhaul Disconnect (The Red Light) Once the background client_mgmt process froze, the satellite lost its wireless connection (or dedicated 6 GHz backhaul) to your main router. When a Deco node cannot communicate with the primary node or reach the internet, its LED automatically switches from Green/Blue to Solid Red. The Root Cause On Deco units (especially the XE75 Pro), this specific crash combination—endless element type is not option:3 DHCP log spam + buffer read errors—is a known firmware bug. When local network devices push certain background traffic (such as multicast packets from smart speakers or legacy IoT devices), it fills up the satellite’s temporary memory until the core network daemon crashes.
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2 weeks ago
Seems to me that the constant log filling messages are causing the issue ?
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