using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM

using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
2019-08-06 09:31:42 - last edited 2019-08-06 09:41:03
Model: CPE210
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I want to establish a long distance connection (5KM) with a cpe210 at one end and a home router at another end. Can I establish a connection between them, instead of using CPE210 at both ends. Please reply with whatever you know, that will be useful.

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Re:using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
2019-08-06 09:46:38

The short answer is no.

 

The longer answer; the CPE210 has a high power transmitter and directional antenna which is optimised to operate over a distance with another similar device.

Even if your router could receive the high power directionally transmitted signal from the CPE210 it will not output enough power in the return direction to reply.

 

Just deploy a second CPE210 (or similar) and connect this to your router.

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Re:Re:using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
2019-08-06 10:30:44

just a slight further clarification!

 

What you are suggesting can be done, so a CPE210 in AP mode can serve local clients, however not over the 5Km you specified.

 

Also you must not enable the Pharos Maxstrem functionality as this is proprietary for TPlink devices

 

But the first answer I gave holds true, if you want 5km a standard router will not work.

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Re:Re:Re:using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
2019-08-06 10:34:11
What would be the practical range of CPE210 if deployed in rural areas.
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Re:Re:Re:Re:using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
2019-08-06 16:28:12 - last edited 2019-08-06 16:53:59

TL-WA5210G: 0~2km  
TL-WA7210N: 0~5km  
TL-WA7510N: 0~5km  
CPE210: 0~5km       
CPE510: 0~15km+    

The maximums above should be considered ideal conditions and will be dramatically impacted by mounting height and ground clutter, even foliage (trees/plants) exhibit very different impacts to your signal depending on weather conditions (rain/wet/windy). Also these maximums should be considered for pairs of the device working together, so a CPE210 can reach 5km to another CPE210, your ipad however cannot connect to a CPE210 5km away (it has a theoretical limit of ~300m and in real world usually much less).

 

A CPE210 can also connect to a CPE510 that is 5km away, that CPE510 could connect to another CPE510 that is 15km away, a CPE210 could not connect to a CPE510 15km away though.

 

Essentially the device with the lower specified distance will always be the limiting factor. 

 

For more details on this topic see the following FAQ Long distance wireless connection concerns when using outdoor access point to understand why your client device (ipad/tablet/pc/phone) wont work

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Re: using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
2019-08-07 13:21:30 - last edited 2019-08-07 13:38:18

manideep wrote

What would be the practical range of CPE210 if deployed in rural areas.

 

Practical range of a CPE depends on the maximum allowed EIRP in your country and environmental conditions. In the Americas and in Asian countries you can probably reach max. distance of 5km with CPE210 if there are ideal environmental conditions, but in European countries max. distance of two CPE210 is shorter due to much lower RF energy the CPEs are allowed to radiate.

 

Note that throughput over a desired range will be limited by the AirTime your CPE is able to acquire. In rural areas a CPE210 could probably reach a pretty good throughput, while in overcrowded areas throughput will decrease dramatically even over short ranges (e.g. 500m).

 

Remember that WiFi is a shared medium. The more APs are competing for AirTime, the smaller is the time slice your CPEs will get for acquiring the WiFi channel and this influences the maximum practical range indirectly.

 

So, if there are many APs visible to the CPEs, AirTime (and therefore throughput) will decrease. For example, the throughput of a 600m link between two of our offices over two CPE210 with 20dBm RF power was as low as 3 Mbps data speed (not WiFi speed!) due to 135 foreign APs around in the 2.4 GHz band, while two CPE510 could increase this throughput up to 85 Mbps data speed over the very same link with only 14 foreign APs around in the 5 GHz band.

 

To summarize: you will have to try whether two CPE210 perform well over a 5km range at your particular place.

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Re:Re: using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
2019-08-08 04:29:56


Will the efficiency be same if I put two CPE210 devices anywhere in 0-5Km range or the farther apart I keep them in that 0-5 Km the more the reduction in speed.

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Re:Re:Re: using CPE210 as an access point and a home router as a client at a distance of 5KM
2019-08-08 11:00:02

manideep wrote


Will the efficiency be same if I put two CPE210 devices anywhere in 0-5Km range or the farther apart I keep them in that 0-5 Km the more the reduction in speed.

 

Efficiency can be better with a relay sation in-between the 5km range, but I recommend to test it first with half the distance using two CPE210.

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