How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?

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How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
2023-01-12 16:40:09 - last edited 2023-02-02 23:07:06
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I already bought one piece of cpe510 as I wasn't aware of many aspects. Anyway, I want to ask multiple questions here.

 

a) Say I want to buy one piece of cpe210 for some reasons.  I know that cpe510 works at 5GHz and cpe210 at 2.4Gz theoretically impossible to link (communicate) those together. What's the right device to link those together as AP and client? Should this device be an extender or a repeater or what? The main role of this device is to re-broadcast 5GHz signal of cpe510 as an AP into 2.4GHz signal (converter) and hence could be received by cpe210 and in turn extend it further.

 

b) What if I keep cpe210 for another scenario. I want to use one piece of cpe510 as an AP that broadcasts internet over some distance ( say ~2km), at that distance I want to connect to the internet using my phone which functions on 2.4GHz which device I must have to convert the 5GHz signal to 2.4GHz signal?

 

c) I understand that cpe510 extends signal over up to 28 km as an AP, does it detect as a client (the reverse case) over the same coverage? that is to ask does it detect APs over the same distance? I intend to use it (cpe510) as a WIFI adapter to connect to my WiFi modem which is few kms away from my location.

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2023-01-13 07:21:17 - last edited 2023-02-02 23:07:06

  @hamad12a 

 

1&2:

 

In normal case we use CPE to build a point-to-point connection. The CPE wireless signal is not designed for normal client devices. The Clinet CPE won't provide you wireless signal, but just Ethernet connection.

For your usage, you can connect another 2.4Ghz AP to the Client CPE510, to shsare the wireless signal. I don't recommend CPE210 since it only has directional antenna. EAP225-outdoor could be a better choice.

 

3. Wireless connection is a 2-way connection, means even CPE is powerful enough, but you also need to make sure your Modem has a powerful antenna. But most of the home modem cannot send signal to kilo meters away.

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Re:How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?-Solution
2023-01-13 07:21:17 - last edited 2023-02-02 23:07:06

  @hamad12a 

 

1&2:

 

In normal case we use CPE to build a point-to-point connection. The CPE wireless signal is not designed for normal client devices. The Clinet CPE won't provide you wireless signal, but just Ethernet connection.

For your usage, you can connect another 2.4Ghz AP to the Client CPE510, to shsare the wireless signal. I don't recommend CPE210 since it only has directional antenna. EAP225-outdoor could be a better choice.

 

3. Wireless connection is a 2-way connection, means even CPE is powerful enough, but you also need to make sure your Modem has a powerful antenna. But most of the home modem cannot send signal to kilo meters away.

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Re:How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
2023-01-13 14:40:20 - last edited 2023-01-23 12:03:41

in this area where I am now most of the people don't use 5GHz so that I could not receive their networks. When I go back home I switch my modem to 5GHz then I see how far it can retrieve signal.

 

please consider to provide technical arguments because I don't want to waste my money again and buy something I don't need!

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Re:How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
2023-01-20 02:54:15

  @hamad12a 

 

Hey,

 

People here are spending time helping others and they are not getting paid for that. So you can take their advice or just ignore it. But you cannot approach their advice like that.

 

With the two posts that you have made, it seems that you need a professional person to help you and do the installation for you. If you want to don't waste your money, I strongly recommend you forget to do a DIY installation for an outdoor wireless connection.

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Re:How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
2023-01-21 13:13:56 - last edited 2023-01-21 13:19:53

  @hamad12a  Im a little confused on exactly what you are attempting to do as well as what you are starting with. What access do you have at the source of the internet? If you have access to the source (A), and are wanting to extend it a distance to point (B) at 5ghz, and then again to (C) but at 2.4ghz, then the first diagram is a way to do this.

 

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However if the distance is not too great and the end result needs to be 2.4Ghz available at the end then you can do this.

 

 

It sounds to me like you are in a remote location and trying to tap into someone elses Wi-Fi, in which case if you don't have access at the source end to install hardware, you are going to be limited on what you can do.

 

 

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Re:How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
2023-02-02 22:47:25 - last edited 2023-02-02 23:04:42

  @RickJamesBish Firstly, I'd like to thank you and @Somnus for these interesting plots which are very explanatory.

I wonder which tool you used to draw them?

Back to the issue. The source of internet is my own modem which functions only on 2.4GHz and I want to extend its range for few kilometers if not less than just one kilo.

I tried at short range to connect to the AP itself by both of my phone and my computer and it works great.

Putting the AP into AP mode connecting it to my modem via ethernet cable extends my existing wireless network over some distance. However, we have another computer which supports only 2.4GHz at that distance, and here is the issue, how to convert the emmitating 5GHz into 2.4GHz to enable connectivity for the 2.4GHz device?

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Re:How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
2023-02-02 22:54:38 - last edited 2023-02-02 22:55:23

  @RickJamesBish I have another technical question if you don't mind.

Why ,although being not sure, two similar APs (one acts as an AP and the other as a client) could communicate over several kilometers away, while one AP and a normal modem can't exceed few 10 meters?

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Re:How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
2023-02-03 07:48:27

hamad12a wrote

  @RickJamesBish I have another technical question if you don't mind.

Why ,although being not sure, two similar APs (one acts as an AP and the other as a client) could communicate over several kilometers away, while one AP and a normal modem can't exceed few 10 meters?

  @hamad12a 

I explained it before. Wireless is a 2-way connection. You can't make a connection via only "hear", you also need to "speak" loud enough.

 

Two CPE can handle long distance because both of them have directional antenna and high transmit power.

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Re:How to link cpe510 and cpe210 together?
2023-02-03 12:08:00 - last edited 2023-02-03 12:09:20

  @hamad12a  Search for Visual Paradigm Online. There are probably several sites that offer free online diagrams.

 

It sounds like you are attempting to do what is in the top part of the diagram. As Somnus pointed out this will not work, and if you did get it to work it would likely barely work and be unreliable. Its like a chain only be as strong as its weakest link and in this case it is very very weak. You will need to do something like in the second part of the diagram.

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