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Hello I am looking for some advice on a wireless premises upgrade.
A) Has a 100Mbps Internet connection with a modem/router which has a POE cable running to (B)
B) Currently has this device http://tinyurl.com/lm6m7xh on the roof of (B) 3 meters high pointing at (C)
C) is the building that mobile phone and laptops will be used by 10-100 clients and is a 3 story high brick building with rooms opening/facing towards (B)
D) is the rear perimeter of the premises and is 60.34 meters from the current wireless base station on (B)
The current setup with the old base station in the link above is working but seems very limited both in bandwidth and signal.
Connecting to the old base station using WPA2 yields around 11Mbps at the "back of the building" on the diagram where 1-7 is located.
From my limited knowledge I am wondering if someone could tell me if this is the correct equipment to replace the old base station on (B) with (I would like to use 2.4Ghz radio for compatability)
1) 2.4GHz 300Mbps Outdoor Wireless Base Station (WBS210)
2) 2.4G 15dBi 2x2 MIMO Sector Antenna (TL-ANT2415MS)
If this is the correct equipment could I expect better performance here for speeds and coverage with the new setup within the 60meter zone and to both end of the building 1-7?
Do I need CPE's for the initial setup or can they be added at a later date?
I am guessing the above equipment can be used stand alone to provide wifi to the premises clients devices best utilising the 100mbps Internet connection?
One of my fears is the price on the old base station it seems significantly higher than the proposed new equipment?
Thank you in advance to anyone who can help shed some light on this for me.
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Hello I am looking for some advice on a wireless premises upgrade.
A) Has a 100Mbps Internet connection with a modem/router which has a POE cable running to (B)
B) Currently has this device http://tinyurl.com/lm6m7xh on the roof of (B) 3 meters high pointing at (C)
C) is the building that mobile phone and laptops will be used by 10-100 clients and is a 3 story high brick building with rooms opening/facing towards (B)
D) is the rear perimeter of the premises and is 60.34 meters from the current wireless base station on (B)
The current setup with the old base station in the link above is working but seems very limited both in bandwidth and signal.
Connecting to the old base station using WPA2 yields around 11Mbps at the "back of the building" on the diagram where 1-7 is located.
From my limited knowledge I am wondering if someone could tell me if this is the correct equipment to replace the old base station on (B) with (I would like to use 2.4Ghz radio for compatability)
1) 2.4GHz 300Mbps Outdoor Wireless Base Station (WBS210)
2) 2.4G 15dBi 2x2 MIMO Sector Antenna (TL-ANT2415MS)
If this is the correct equipment could I expect better performance here for speeds and coverage with the new setup within the 60meter zone and to both end of the building 1-7?
Do I need CPE's for the initial setup or can they be added at a later date?
I am guessing the above equipment can be used stand alone to provide wifi to the premises clients devices best utilising the 100mbps Internet connection?
One of my fears is the price on the old base station it seems significantly higher than the proposed new equipment?
Thank you in advance to anyone who can help shed some light on this for me.
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Re:Premises Upgrade
2017-07-06 20:25:59
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I was unsure what to put into the WBS210 settings for the TL-ANT2415MS for 'Antenna Gain' so I put in 15dbi as the Antenna specs.
That's the correct setting.
Also found t he two [COLOR=#333333]M6x35 bolts to be too short so left off the self tightening washer.
I reported this "bug" last year to TP-Link already. Makes me wonder why they still deliver wrong bolts. Should be M6x40.
Great that it finally works for you! Have fun!
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2017-07-07 11:34:14
Had time for a quick tweaking session today,
Set: Antenna Gain: 0 (20dBm)
Max TX Rate: MCS6 (Lowering this increased signal strength)
The connection speeds are now impressive within the whole building even the end rooms ( around 64Mbps !) even the back of the building C and the stairwells now get 22Mbps.
Awesome stuff! :)
Set: Antenna Gain: 0 (20dBm)
Max TX Rate: MCS6 (Lowering this increased signal strength)
The connection speeds are now impressive within the whole building even the end rooms ( around 64Mbps !) even the back of the building C and the stairwells now get 22Mbps.
Awesome stuff! :)
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Re:Premises Upgrade
2017-07-07 18:41:25
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Set: Antenna Gain: 0 (30dBm)
You should be aware that 1,000mW EIRP for 2.4GHz band is illegal in most countries and in the worst case your WiFi equipment could be seized (again depending on the country).
Max TX Rate: MCS6 (Lowering this increased signal strength)
Reducing speed does not lower signal strength, but avoids codecs you probably could use if signal strength is properly aligned to the distance.
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2017-10-04 13:33:02
I am back! The whole thing stopped working with 25+ users on the
WBS210/TL-ANT2415MS on
B roof.
So I should have listened to you experts.
This time for version 2 my focus will be on getting wifi inside of building C mainly (and B,E). To share that 100mbit/s Internet goodness connection equally amongst the laptops and mobile phones.
My new setup is below. I am open to comment - and will listen this time. Hopefully I don't have to bin the WBS210/TL-ANT2415MS.
So I should have listened to you experts.
This time for version 2 my focus will be on getting wifi inside of building C mainly (and B,E). To share that 100mbit/s Internet goodness connection equally amongst the laptops and mobile phones.
My new setup is below. I am open to comment - and will listen this time. Hopefully I don't have to bin the WBS210/TL-ANT2415MS.
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2017-10-05 05:52:16
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This time for version 2 my focus will be on getting wifi inside of building C mainly (and B,E).
What's the purpose of the 2x EAP110-Outdoor? Should they cover outdoor devices or buildings B and E?
Note that the EAP110-Outdoor has a coverage area of up to 100-150m (200m theoretically for 802.11n, if good weather and not a Friday the 13th :D).
Hopefully I don't have to bin the WBS210/TL-ANT2415MS.
You could still use the WBS210 with sector antenna to feed up to 20-25 outdoor clients. Or exchange the TL-ANT2415MS by the newly announced TL-ANT2410MO omnidirectional antenna to replace one of the EAP110-Outdoor.
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2017-10-05 06:29:50
thanks for looking R1D2, that omnidirectional looks great I will put it with the
WBS210/TL to cover B and some of the yard. Then I just need to find a way to get something out to E (might even be able to run a cable to that one)
Would I be better off just having WBS510 to the first CPE510? Then running network cable from CPE510 -> TL-WR841HP -> TL-WR841HP -> TL-WR841HP
Do I even need an antenna that first hop is 8 meters so maybe from A to C - CPE520 <-> CPE520 -cat6> TL-WR841HP - cat6 > TL-WR841HP - cat6 > TL-WR841HP
Would I be better off just having WBS510 to the first CPE510? Then running network cable from CPE510 -> TL-WR841HP -> TL-WR841HP -> TL-WR841HP
Do I even need an antenna that first hop is 8 meters so maybe from A to C - CPE520 <-> CPE520 -cat6> TL-WR841HP - cat6 > TL-WR841HP - cat6 > TL-WR841HP
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2017-10-05 08:38:27
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Would I be better off just having WBS510 to the first CPE510?
IMHO, no. Only difference is the antenna - for one directional link only a CPE510 fits perfectly.
Do I even need an antenna that first hop is 8 meters so maybe from A to C - CPE520 <-> CPE520 -cat6> TL-WR841HP -cat6 > TL-WR841HP -cat6 > TL-WR841HP
Using a cable is always the best option. Wireless links are the second-best solution if cabling isn't possible.
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2017-10-05 09:11:32
Great looks much cleaner.
I am guessing the cat6 cable can be run from the (C) CPE520 to the first TL-WR841HP then multiple cat6 out and into the other WR841HP's (maybe use a switch before the first WR841)
This would be from the (C) CPE520 it is as fast as it can be then cable sent to multiple TL-WR841HP's throughout the building.
I suppose the 2.4Ghz wifi in the building would overlap with the same ssid's hopefully that is not a problem.
I am guessing the cat6 cable can be run from the (C) CPE520 to the first TL-WR841HP then multiple cat6 out and into the other WR841HP's (maybe use a switch before the first WR841)
This would be from the (C) CPE520 it is as fast as it can be then cable sent to multiple TL-WR841HP's throughout the building.
I suppose the 2.4Ghz wifi in the building would overlap with the same ssid's hopefully that is not a problem.
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2017-10-05 16:07:49
Same SSIDs are no problem (it makes roaming between SSIDs possible), but you should use different WiFi channels.
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