Looking for gunidance on CPE 210 network solution

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Looking for gunidance on CPE 210 network solution
Looking for gunidance on CPE 210 network solution
2020-01-15 19:41:47

I have ordered 2 CPE210's  to do a point to point solution and provide WIFI solutions to my home ( 1000 Sqaure feet one level).   I currently have internet in my home but looking to remove the service and use the ntwk from my business located about 1000-1500 feet away.  There is some obstruction with a few trees ....but I also have a rental 200 feet in front of me that has clear line of site if I can't go through  direct.  In my home I have a wireless router  as well .   Beyond the CPE 210 will I require another access point?

If I need to use the rental as my point to point how do I get the signal to my house 200 feet away purchase another CPE 210 ?

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Re:Looking for gunidance on CPE 210 network solution
2020-01-15 20:11:43 - last edited 2020-01-15 20:12:53

@Danicor, you could use another pair of CPEs between the rental and your house. CPEs have an antenna beam width of 65º, thus concentrating RF energy in one direction only. So on your rental you would need one CPE directed to your house and one directed to your office as well as the counterparts on the house/office directed to the rental.

 

That's a typical relay topology: CPE#1-)))) ((((-CPE#2------CPE#3-)))) ((((-CPE#4

 

Free line of sight is import for long-range links (1000 feet), not so much for short-range links (200 feet).

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2020-01-15 20:38:29

@R1D2 

 

Thanks!.... 

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2020-01-15 20:41:44
would it be possible to have a thrid unit at rental in repeater mode?
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2020-01-15 20:42:42
would it be possible to have 3rd unit at rental in repeater mode facing the house?
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2020-01-15 22:00:57 - last edited 2020-01-15 22:11:28

@Danicor, I don't recommend repeater mode for CPEs. First, a repeater cuts wireless throughput by 50% and second, it can cause a very nasty problem known as the »Hidden Node Problem«.

 

But most important reason to not use a CPE as a repeater is because its antenna beam width, which is 65º. This means that antennas are designed to concentrate RF energy in a small beam to increase its range in one direction (thus, its built-in antennas are called directional antennas).

 

Both outermost CPEs at the house/office would have to fall in this angle to get best results regarding the WiFi signals. Just draw two straight lines from the rental to the house and to the office and measure the angle to find out whether both places would be covered by the 65º beam of one CPE. If not, expect another drop in throughput or over long ranges a complete dropout.

 

BTW, another consideration is the area you live in. Is it heavily populated? Are there many foreign WiFi APs around? If so, consider CPE510 which uses the 5 GHz freuqency band rather than CPE210 which uses 2.4 GHz. 5 GHz has advantages such as higher signal power, but is more sensitive to obstacles (rain, snow). 2.4 GHz performs better if there are obstacles, but has lower signal power and nneds to use overlapping channels, which in turn can lead to more interferences if many other APs are around.

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2020-01-15 22:41:37
im in rural area...but there are some trees leading. to my house. From my house to business I'm elevaded about 100 ft over that 1000 ft. I'm pretty confident I'll be allowed to trim some trees in the current config at the business there is a router which is then served wirelessly through a fully meshed ntwk using eero...this was installed by the ISP provider. so basically they are using WiFi to distribute both internet and TV. Using that assumption. I should be able to do the same here at my home. I have a great contact with the ISP provider and will confirm. I'm thinking I should be able to plug the cpe 210 into the router ....broadcast to my place to cpe210 then to a router then distribute through Wi-Fi
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2020-01-15 23:38:36

@Danicor, I see.

 

In this case the CPE210 at the rental coulindeed pick up the signal at the business place, yes. Then a second CPE at the rental wired to the first could send it to the home, yes. As for the router you wouldn't need one since the first CPE at the rental can operate in Router mode giving you an own subnet for the home.

 

Now, for the home you could use an omnidirectional antenna (360º coverage) which could be deployed with a WBS210 and TL-ANT2410MO. Ony problem is that in the U.S. WBS210 is end-of-life already and I'm not sure whether TL-ANT2410MO is available in your country (U.S. website of TP-Link doesn't show it), but you could order from Amazon Germany. This anteanna should cover 200 feet easily.

 

Another alternative would be EAP225-Outdoor for the home. It could receive the CPE's signal on 2.4 GHz and propagate the data through its 5 GHz radio. That's way better than using a repeater. Since EAPs run only in AP mode (not client nor repeater) you would configure the second CPE at the rental as a client linked to the EAP.

 

The first CPE would be configured to run in  AP Client Router mode, that is: the WAN is picked up by the client from the business, then it's routed to a subnet (cable) and optionaly an AP, which you could either use at the rental or disable at all.

 

But note: maximum throughput with CPEs is limited to 100 Mbps full-duplex (requiring 300 Mbps WiFi speed half-duplex).

 

 

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