EAP225-Wall VLAN

This thread has been locked for further replies. You can start a new thread to share your ideas or ask questions.

EAP225-Wall VLAN

This thread has been locked for further replies. You can start a new thread to share your ideas or ask questions.
EAP225-Wall VLAN
EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-08-14 18:31:52
Model: EAP225-Wall  
Hardware Version: V2
Firmware Version: 1.2.0 Build 20190222 Rel. 34350(4555)

Hello,

 

is there any chance to configure the eth ports (1-3) to specific VLANs (like SSID-to-VLAN) for an EAP225-Wall?

 

If I had root access, I would configure it by myself via SSH, but unfortunately "vconfig: ioctl error for add: Operation not permitted" and I really have no time investiagting a "custom firmware" (even though I am very interested in that approach).

 

If this is not possible at all, why there are 3 NICs just bridged directly into my "eth0-vlan-trunk"?!

 

Kind regards

  0      
  0      
#1
Options
10 Reply
Re:Re:Re:Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-08-16 06:18:12

 

You have done it on EAP245v3 whay not EAP225-Wall?

 

  0  
  0  
#5
Options
Re:Re:Re:Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-08-16 10:38:12 - last edited 2019-08-16 10:50:30

forrest wrote

When the clients connect to the EAP225-Wall via the downlink port, these clients will not show up in the Controller.

 

 

I can not confirm this statement.

 

The Web-Interface for the EAP225-Wall do show up / indicate the link status for either of the ports - even with link-speed and link-type (full-duplex, half-duplex).

 

As shberge pointed out it is configureable in the Web-Interface for the EAP245.

 

Accessible ethernet ports should (and in my own opinion must) not be VLAN trunk ports! Either they should be configurable as VLAN access ports or just ignore VLAN traffic at all and just serve as "dump dumb" ethernet ports (i.e. dropping any 802.11q traffic).

 

I highly recommend and wish for a firmware upgrade integrating this functionality. It need not necessarily enable configuring a specific VLAN access port for each NIC independently but at least for all-together.

 

Think about it, as this feature will may increases sellings of the EAP225-Wall. No professional will mount any of these EAP225-Wall when they do expose VLAN trunk ports ... 

  0  
  0  
#6
Options
Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-10-16 19:40:38

And while upgrading the design, upgrade the backhaul to Gigabit as well, what beancounter buttonsorter came up with the ridiculous idea of using a 100 Megabit backhaul for three 100 Megabit ports and two wireless connections, each of which already capable of flooding that 100 Megabit backhaul on its own?

  0  
  0  
#7
Options
Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-10-16 20:25:17 - last edited 2019-10-16 20:26:17

 

apveening wrote

And while upgrading the design, upgrade the backhaul to Gigabit as well, what beancounter buttonsorter came up with the ridiculous idea of using a 100 Megabit backhaul for three 100 Megabit ports and two wireless connections, each of which already capable of flooding that 100 Megabit backhaul on its own?

 

Given the fact that wall plate EAPs are designed as APs for every single room in medium and big hotels (100+ rooms) and the APs have a very low WiFi coverage to avoid interferences between the rooms, 100 x 100 Mbps interfaces already need a core net / Internet bandwidth of 10 Gbps to make use of a fully saturated 100 Mbps bandwidth per EAP.

 

For example, in our largest hotel installations with plenty of floors and rooms we even rate limit all EAPs to 50 to 100 Mbps per floor in the switches despite the EAPs have a Gbps interface to avoid overloading the network.

 

Now you may ask why the EAP225-Wall has AC 1200 WiFi speed, right? Because of AirTime savings if there a dozens of wall APs around nearby rooms.

 

Of course, if you just use one or two wall plate EAPs in your house, you probably want a faster NIC. But why not use an EAP225 then?

༺ 0100 1101 0010 10ཏ1 0010 0110 1010 1110 ༻
  0  
  0  
#8
Options
Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-10-16 20:42:16

@R1D2 

R1D2 wrote 

Of course, if you just use one or two wall plate EAPs in your house, you probably want a faster NIC. But why not use an EAP225 then?

Because of the physical size and shape of the EAP225-Wall. It fits exactly in a good and easy to reach spot where nobody notices it. 

  0  
  0  
#9
Options
Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-10-16 20:56:12

apveening wrote

Because of the physical size and shape of the EAP225-Wall. It fits exactly in a good and easy to reach spot where nobody notices it. 

 

I see. But if I were to use a 10 ton truck for shopping because more shopping bags fit in there, I wouldn't call the mechanical engineers "beancounter buttonsorter", because there are only 2 seats in the truck. laugh

༺ 0100 1101 0010 10ཏ1 0010 0110 1010 1110 ༻
  0  
  0  
#10
Options
Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-10-16 21:17:54 - last edited 2019-10-16 21:26:53

@R1D2 

But what is the difference in price of the finished product?

 

I am seriously considering replacing it with a comparable Ubiquity product which does have Gigabit backhaul, nearly the same dimensions (about 0.1 mm less in the most critical one) and an extra RJ45 port.

  0  
  0  
#11
Options
Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2019-10-16 21:29:20 - last edited 2019-10-16 21:32:45

apveening wrote

But what is the difference in price of the finished product?

 

Should be asked the product manager, not me. But from my experience I can say that pricing plays a role in large installations.

 

I am seriously considering replacing it with a comparable Uniquity product which does have Gigabit backhaul, nearly the same dimensions (about 0.1 mm less in the most critical one) and an extra RJ45 port.

 

 

Maybe it's the difference that probably Ubiquiti targets another market than TP-Link does with EAP225-Wall.

 

We can complain about some product not having a 1000 Mbps NIC, but as designed for a specific target market it could perfectly make sense to design a 100 Mbps NIC. And honestly: if UBNT has a device which better fits my needs, I buy this device (and even recommend it to customers buying TP-Link gear from my company). So all my EAP225-Outdoor installations are almost always powered by an UBNT EP-R6, because TP-Link decided to not produce a passive PoE switch for outdoor deployment. Similar case.

 

༺ 0100 1101 0010 10ཏ1 0010 0110 1010 1110 ༻
  1  
  1  
#12
Options
Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2020-04-25 23:14:55
Was announced for Q1, but date already slipped to half Q2.
  0  
  0  
#13
Options
Re:EAP225-Wall VLAN
2020-04-26 03:55:41

@MrGeek 

MrGeek wrote

Hello,

 

is there any chance to configure the eth ports (1-3) to specific VLANs (like SSID-to-VLAN) for an EAP225-Wall?

 

If I had root access, I would configure it by myself via SSH, but unfortunately "vconfig: ioctl error for add: Operation not permitted" and I really have no time investiagting a "custom firmware" (even though I am very interested in that approach).

 

If this is not possible at all, why there are 3 NICs just bridged directly into my "eth0-vlan-trunk"?!

 

Kind regards

 

Yes, you can set specific VLAN for the Ethernet port of EAP225-Wall, you can configure it in the private settings of EAP225-Wall of Controller.

 

  0  
  0  
#14
Options