OMADA controller with CPE210

OMADA controller with CPE210
OMADA controller with CPE210
2019-12-16 18:28:09
Model: CPE210
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Hi!

 

I have been searching on the web for the possibility of using the omada controller with my CPE210. I have no issues with 210 and is perfectly working fine as expected, however, I am really keen on the omada's cloud system.  I have approximately 10 users in our neighborhood connecting to my CPE210 range extender. Will I be able to use the omada with CPE210 or can you give me any advise if I can interconnect CPE and EAP. Basically, I want my users to login using a code to access wifi network and will time out at a certain amount of time. Any information provided is highly appreciated. 

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Ryan

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2019-12-17 00:50:07 - last edited 2019-12-17 00:54:30

Pharos CPEs can't be used with Omada Controller. Pharos products are used for directional links over very long distances.

 

If you want to supply WLAN to client devices over short distances, EAP225-Outdoor would be the AP of choice. An EAP22-Outdoor could be managed by Omada Controller. Of course you can connect an EAP225-Outdoor at the end of a point-to-point link using CPEs. Just use the EAP225-Outdoor as the AP for WLAN coverage at remote places and connect it to the CPE as shown in this picture:

 

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2019-12-18 17:08:32

@R1D2 

 

Thanks for the prompt response and the illustration is very helpful, indeed. Will i be able to use then the full functionality of eap225 if i extend it with cpe? I am referring to voucher login. I have like 15 users in our compound and would like them to use voucher login. For now i am using cpe to extend the coverage and i collect monthly payment from them. 

 

Thanks again!

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2019-12-18 18:51:51

Yes, you can use the full functionality of Omada Controller if you restrict the WLAN to EAPs only. Ensure to use CPEs only for the backhaul, so clients are not able to connect to the CPEs directly.

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2020-01-15 00:22:33

@R1D2 

 

Thanks for the prompt response. Would the suggested setup work if I only have one EAP and one CPE? 

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2020-01-15 00:35:17 - last edited 2020-01-15 00:37:19

@paparazz01, if you can supply WLAN to 10-15 users through a CPE210 currently, this means that the client devices have a strong enough signal to reach the CPE, right?

 

In this case (distance between AP and clients <= ~50-70m) you could replace the CPE210 by an EAP225-Outdoor. The critical point for the WLAN coverage of an area is always the weakest part, that is the most far-away client device's antenna, not the CPE or EAP.

 

What are the distances between the AP and the client devices? Are any obstacles (walls, trees, whatever) in-between the line of sight?

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2020-01-15 00:39:15

@paparazz01 

 

EAP can work with CPE210, but the CPE should work in Client mode and connect to EAP. (See  the following network topology.) 

If you just want to use the portal authentication, actually, you can use EAP225-Outdoor. EAP225-Outdoor can transfer 200m in 2.4G and 300m in 5G, that shoule be enough for you. 

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2020-01-15 00:48:38

 

R1D2 wrote

@paparazz01, if you can supply WLAN to 10-15 users through a CPE210 currently, this means that the client devices have a strong enough signal to reach the CPE, right?

 

In this case (distance between AP and clients <= ~50-70m) you could replace the CPE210 by an EAP225-Outdoor. The critical point for the WLAN coverage of an area is always the weakest part, that is the most far-away client device's antenna, not the CPE or EAP.

 

What are the distances between the AP and the client devices? Are any obstacles (walls, trees, whatever) in-between the line of sight?

@R1D2 

 

Yeah, my clients have no issues with the Wi-Fi signal and is getting 3-4 bars on their mobile devices indoors. My clients live in different houses inside our compound at approximately 200m from where the cpe is installed. There are several trees around the area but so far as I surveyed hey are getting good connection at direct line of sight of the CPE. I am highly satisfied with CPE but I am really keen on the authentication that eap has to offer. 

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2020-01-15 00:51:14

 

forrest wrote

@paparazz01 

 

EAP can work with CPE210, but the CPE should work in Client mode and connect to EAP. (See  the following network topology.) 

If you just want to use the portal authentication, actually, you can use EAP225-Outdoor. EAP225-Outdoor can transfer 200m in 2.4G and 300m in 5G, that shoule be enough for you. 

@forrest 

 

Thanks for all the help. So i guess I should go with eap outdoor then. It is really the authentication that I am after with. If I can extend it further with CPE then it would be awesome. I would be able to service more clients even outside our compound.

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2020-01-15 01:17:38 - last edited 2020-01-15 01:30:13

 

paparazz01 wrote

 

Yeah, my clients have no issues with the Wi-Fi signal and is getting 3-4 bars on their mobile devices indoors. My clients live in different houses inside our compound at approximately 200m from where the cpe is installed.

 

200m is a large distance for client devices such as smartphones, laptops etc. used indoor, but CPE has an excellent receiver sesitivity. I would use an EAP225-Outdoor in the near of the houses (ideally near the houses, say 150m) and link the CPE210 wirelessly to the EAP.

 

Since EAP runs in AP-only mode, CPE210 must be set to client mode then:

 

 

Why this way? Because EAP225-Outdoor gives your clients a 360º coverage, while CPE210 (65º antenna beam width) can be easily adjusted to point to the EAP.

 

Note that you also could use two EAP225-Outdoor in a meshed network if you need coverage on your local (left) side, too. Then one EAP can work in client/AP mixed mode and connect to the other EAP running in AP mode. But 200m distance might be critical for two EAPs using a mesh network, while over 100m I can say by experience that it works fine (EU region signal strength, YMMV in other regions which allow stronger signal strength).

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Re:OMADA controller with CPE210
2020-01-15 01:42:55

 

forrest wrote

EAP225-Outdoor can transfer 200m in 2.4G and 300m in 5G, that shoule be enough for you. 

 

forrest, are you sure about this coverage distance? What about ranges of the EU model?

 

I remember that EAP-Outdoor specs once had been given as diameter, not radius, probably because of its 360º coverage. But for directional links the radius is important, not diameter. This picture shows the 2.4GHz range as once published on the TP-Link website:

 

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