Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?

Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?
Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?
2020-04-01 09:39:07
Model: EAP330
Hardware Version: V2
Firmware Version: 1.4.0

I've been looking to step-up my network to WiFi 6 since the laptops include an Intel AX200(/201) chip and the newer smartphones on the network support it. Both spatial frequency re-use and OFDMA will make all the difference here.

 

In the past weeks I've been eagerly checking various sources for references to the EAP660HD, the Omada switches and the rest of the SDN lineup. Nothing popped up, but there also was no message of it being delayed. Yesterday Q1 ended and even the community forum is silent on the new product line. When can we expect them? Could you release more info on the products beforehand? 

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Re:Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?
2020-04-01 12:53:58

@martijn86 there was another thread here on the board (or reddit, I forget) that indicated that the EAP660 and 620 would be delayed until the Summer.  But you are correct, I haven't seen an official announcement

 

Are you planning a new deployment?  Or a new upgrade?

 

Either way, keep in mind that new software is often very buggy for the first year or so.  I'm not sure I'd want to make the switch so soon after any new product is introduced (from any vendor)

 

Do you have any data to suggest 802.11ac is not fast enough for your needs?  I've got Gigabit FIOS at home with ~40 Wifi clients (two EAP225's and one OC200 connected to the FIOS router, Wifi on router is disabled). 

 

Peak bandwith from an EAP225 V3 to an inidividual 802.11ac client is around 400-450 Mbit DL and a little higher on the upload.

 

I backup a number of PC's to the Cloud (Acronis) nightly and my kids stream all day on their tablets and Roku while my wife and work from home (shelter in place) with 6+ laptops.

 

While I'm a "tweaker" as well.  The reality is that for $58 each on Amazon the EAP225V3's are incredibly performant.  While they do support Wireless MESH as well, hardwire is still the best choice.  I have one directedly connected to my FIOS router.  The other traverses a MOCA 2.0 Bridge.

 

All the best,

Jonathan

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Re:Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?
2020-04-02 02:43:07

@martijn86, AFAIK, the release date for the SDN lineup was planned before the CoV-2 lockdown. I think it will be delayed somewhat.

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Re:Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?
2020-04-03 14:57:46 - last edited 2020-04-03 15:09:55

 

JSchnee21 wrote

Do you have any data to suggest 802.11ac is not fast enough for your needs?  I've got Gigabit FIOS at home with ~40 Wifi clients (two EAP225's and one OC200 connected to the FIOS router, Wifi on router is disabled). 

@JSchnee21 

 

With two EAP330's, my issue is not bandwidth. I'm eager to upgrade to AX because up to AC I've been dissatisfied with WiFi. My wish is to eventually use wireless laptops and cellphones for Game Streaming. At the moment, congestion from the neighbours WiFi, Bluetooth devices etc are causing inconsistent latency. The more connected IoT devices, the more they need to que packages causing even more delays. All my hope is on bidirectional MU-MIMO, OFDMA and spacial frequency reuse to finally make WiFi a good alternative to 1Gbit ethernet.

 

At the same time I'm switching to 10Gbit ethernet in the walls for switches and AP backbones. 

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Re:Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?
2020-04-03 15:30:30

Hi @martijn86,

 

Well, wireless will always have a higher latency than hardwire.  If you're really concerned about a few extra milliseconds then ethernet is the way to go.  Siilarly, DOCSIS will always be slower than fiber.

 

-Jonathan

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Re:Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?
2020-04-03 17:56:07 - last edited 2020-04-03 18:12:04

@martijn86, with a 10 Gbps Internet uplink an 802.11ax WLAN makes sense.

 

However, to reach a low latency your clients would need to support 802.11ax, too. Indeed, it is possible to lower the latency by ~75% over a 802.11ax wireless connection due to 75% less subcarrier spacing with MU-OFDMA. Lower latencies < 1ms over wireless links are possible using a special modulation scheme such as FDD and a bi-directional full-duplex link, but this is used only for wireless PtP backhauls, not for standard APs in PtMP scenarios.

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Re:Where is the new Omada SDN lineup that was scheduled for Q1 2020?
2020-04-03 18:14:53

@R1D2 You get it. Again it is not about bandwidth. Omada works great and just like my wired connection, the latency is only 4ms. On WiFi however, it isn't constant and once in a while it will spike to 200ms. Before WiFi 6(e), that was just the nature of the beast, but I really think AX can be a revolution. I like to optimize my network, work out all the kinks like bufferbloat, physical ap locations etc and overcoming the problems of congested radio bands is just something that's long overdue for universally usable WiFi.

 

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