Is Smart Connect (one combined SSID for both 2.4 + 5 GHz) a planned feature update?

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Is Smart Connect (one combined SSID for both 2.4 + 5 GHz) a planned feature update?
Is Smart Connect (one combined SSID for both 2.4 + 5 GHz) a planned feature update?
2020-08-24 01:50:26 - last edited 2020-09-01 02:02:36

I've looked at the latest Omada Cloud SDN documentation and the features supported by each of the latest APs. None mention "Smart Connect", which allows both the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz networks to use a single SSID. Smart Connect greatly reduces user confusion, as they can freely associate on either band without needing to think about it.

 

I did find this footnote on page 36 of the Omada Controller 3.2.1 User Guide:

Is that final bullet considered Smart Connect, i.e., the Omada AP will automatically assign the correct band before connection? Smart Connect is different than band steering: band steering switches users between 2.4 / 5 GHz after users connect to the AP, if the user selected incorrectly (as they often will). Smart Connect automatically assigns users to the best band (2.4 or 5 GHz) before the connection with zero user intervention. 

 

Notably, the above section is not on the Omada Controller 3.0.2 , so it is a new feature to 3.0.5 and above. Is the feature described by Omada Controller 3.05+ essentially Smart Connect?  

 

Many of TP-Link's consumer / prosumer routers include Smart Connect:


What is Smart Connect? | TP-Link

 

When you connect a device to your router, Smart Connect will automatically identify the best available channel and assign the device to it. It is true that piling too many devices on one band might reduce its performance. Smart Connect technology allows your router to automatically choose the most efficient device so that every device is able to reach its full potential. Smart Connect relies on an advanced algorithm that not only automatically determines which band is best for each device, but also constantly monitors the overall status of each device to determine if and when a particular device would benefit from being automatically reassigned to a different band.

 

  

What is the TP-Link Smart Connect feature and how to enable it? | TP-Link

 

 

TP-Link Smart Connect allows the router to automatically assign connected devices to the Wi-Fi band that provides the fastest speed. By balancing the load and assigning devices to the most appropriate band, Smart Connect can reduce delays and interruptions. When Smart Connect enabled, the router’s 2.4GHz and 5GHz networks share the same SSID (network name) and password.  You can enjoy a seamless connection between 2.4GHz and 5GHz networks.

 

 

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2020-08-25 05:17:14 - last edited 2020-09-01 02:02:36

 

ikjadoon wrote

Because of that, I realized thread title is incorrect; it should be reworded "band steering based on RSSI / signal quality, instead of band steering based on load balancing number of clients per-band".

 

This is called »Load Balancing« in the Omada ecosystem:

 

 

Terminology often differs between vendors, actual implementations too.

 

BTW: This first and third sentences here:

 

The last element is software to assign 5 GHz clients to a radio based on the client's speed. The assignment algorithm takes not only client class into account, but actual link rate, which depends on signal strength and other factors. So XStream is smart enough, for example, to take a 2x2 AC867 class client with a low signal level and move it to the same radio as a 1x1 N150 device sitting close to the router.

 

are pure marketing bla bla. A technician would never speak of »speed« which is always the same for EM waves. The second sentence is probably what a technician told the marketing guy, since technicians speak of »link rates« or »WIFi rates« which determine the »throughput«, but never the »speed«.

 

The marketing guy then added »XStream« as something »smart«, but an AP cannot »move« clients to radios, it can just deny clients to connect to a certain radio. The decision to which radio to connect to if a certain radio refuses association of a client is up to the client alone. That's standard behavior of all clients to not connect to a radio if the signal quality of an AP is weak and another nearby AP with a better signal quality is present.

 

 

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Re:Is Smart Connect (one combined SSID for both 2.4 + 5 GHz) a planned feature update?
2020-08-24 07:10:50 - last edited 2020-08-24 07:24:19

@ikjadoon, »Smart Connect« in SOHO devices might be something like »Band Steering« in SMB devices which – based on some specific criteria – forces wireless clients to connect with either the 2.4 GHz or the 5 GHz band to achieve kind of a load balancing and a better signal/throughput.

 

»Smart Connect« has nothing to do with allowing a device to connect to either frequency band of an AP. It also has nothing to do with roaming, which allows clients to select the AP with the best signal (in case there are more than one APs) under a common WLAN name.

 

Every AP (not only those from TP-Link) lets you assign the same ESSID¹ to both frequency bands as well as to several different APs to achieve a common Extended Service Set (a collection of different APs using the same WLAN name, the ESSID). The choice which Basic Service Set (BSS, a single AP in an ESS defined by its BSSID) is selected is solely up to the client device. The client device will decide to which AP and to which band it connects according to an algorithm defined by the device's manufacturer.

 

You can even mix different APs from different manufacturers in the same ESSID all using the same common WLAN name.

 

This is a basic feature defined in the very first version of the 802.11 Wireless Networks standard. It's nothing special, no option needed.

 

Just define the common ESSID on the APs and the frequency bands you want to combine into an ESS.

 

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¹ The ESSID is what most people call the SSID, not realizing that there are always two SSIDs: the ESSID (WLAN name) and the BSSID (the AP's MAC address).

 

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2020-08-25 03:08:43 - last edited 2020-08-25 03:57:04

@R1D2 

 

Cheers and thank you for the reply, R1D2. I'm glad to be educated about the BSSID and ESSID difference. Because of that, I realized thread title is incorrect; it should be reworded "band steering based on RSSI / signal quality, instead of band steering based on load balancing number of clients per-band".

 

Some terminology overlap is perhaps expected between "band steering" and "Smart Connect" as each vendor plays up their marketing. To be more precise, I'm looking for signal-quality-based band steering versus load-balancing-based band steering (what Omada has today, according to the documentation). Smart Connect is technically the former. 

 

Band steering as defined by the Omada documentation decides purely on "how many connected clients", which is not quite Smart Connect. Omada choose 2.4 GHz vs 5 GHz purely by the number of clients. "How many on 2.4 GHz? That's too many.  Switch to 5 GHz if capable."

 

 

Smart Connect is a somewhat more complex system, i.e., noted by the "algorithm" term used by TP-Link, that also includes connection quality. The word "algorithm" is pure marketing. Broadcom goes into much more detail of how they implemented 2.4 GHz vs 5 GHz steering for their XStream architecture [link 1]:

 

The last element is software to assign 5 GHz clients to a radio based on the client's speed. The assignment algorithm takes not only client class into account, but actual link rate, which depends on signal strength and other factors. So XStream is smart enough, for example, to take a 2x2 AC867 class client with a low signal level and move it to the same radio as a 1x1 N150 device sitting close to the router. The Broadcom graphic below is goofy but illustrates the point simply.
 

Clients can be moved from radio to radio dynamically as link rates change. But router manufacturers will be able tune this feature as needed since changing radios requires devices to reassociate, i.e. break connection, which tends to make users unhappy.

 

The upshot of all this is that bandwidth use will be increased because fast clients won't have to wait for slow clients. And since MU-MIMO (or even 802.11ac) support isn't required, XStream can help improve Wi-Fi performance of any mix of 5 GHz clients.

 

2.4 / 5 GHz band steering is also part of XStream. But since its benefits are not as straightforward to calculate and require radios to drop and re-establish connection, implementation will be up to the end-product manufacturer. Finally, if you think you can do a better job of client assignment, product vendors may also elect to provide separate SSIDs for each 5 GHz radio and let you have at it.

 

You may see some of the implementations used by Ubiquiti, ASUS, and Synology below. Note difference between balancing the number of clients versus the quality of the client connection, as Synology shows. ASUS is simply too much user control, for what it's worth, but this article gives a brief overview of how to manage steering beyond simply totaling the number of clients [link 2]. Aruba also offers this type of band steering [link 3].

 

 

 

 

As an example: if my dual-band laptop is far away with more obstructions, it'll be steered towards 2.4 GHz. If I close my laptop, move to the same room as the router, and re-open my laptop (triggering another association), Smart Connect will automatically nudge my device towards the 5 GHz radio because the connection quality is sufficiently high enough (or so the wireless AP guesses).

 

This article explains more about the feature I meant to describe [link 4]

 

Some AP vendors offer multiple modes of band steering when it's explicitly enabled. While different vendors use different terminology, these modes generally can be categorized as follows:

 

  • Force 5 GHz connections:  With force 5 GHz, a dual-band client device will only be allowed to connect to the network on the 5 GHz band, and any requests to connect on the 2.4 GHz band will be ignored. This mode works quite well when the signal strength is good on the 5 GHz band, but will prove problematic if there are weak coverage areas on 5 GHz because the network will not allow the client device to “fall back” to the 2.4 GHz network.

  • Prefer 5 GHz connections:  This mode involves specifying a threshold received signal strength indicator (RSSI) such that so long as the client device has an RSSI value above the threshold, the access point will preferentially encourage the client device to connect on the 5 GHz band. When the 5 GHz RSSI dips below the threshold, the client device will be allowed on the 2.4 GHz band. The challenge here is selecting an appropriate RSSI threshold. Set the threshold too high, and devices that really should be connecting on the 5 GHz band are actually connecting at 2.4 GHz. Set the threshold too low, and devices may be getting relatively poor performance on the 5 GHz band when they would get better performance on the 2.4 GHz band.

  • Load-balance connections:  In environments with a high density of client devices, it may be advantageous to balance connections between the 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz bands.  As an example, take a classroom with 30 student iPads. In a normal load-balancing scenario, all 30 devices would be connected on the 5 GHz radio, leaving the 2.4 GHz radio (and the band) idle.  One would get better airtime utilization from the AP by purposely shifting some proportion of the clients to the 2.4 GHz band. Such a mode usually allows the specification of a load-balancing threshold and/or percentage of clients to allow on the 5 GHz band vs. the 2.4 GHz band. 

 

Best practice: If there are tunable options for band steering available, then the safest option is to select prefer 5 GHz with a relatively low threshold, such as -80 dBm. This will make client devices connect normally on the 5 GHz band, but will allow them to connect on 2.4 GHz in areas where 5 GHz coverage is weak but 2.4 GHz coverage is still available. 

 

Omada seems to only offer load-balanced band steering (the 3rd bullet). I'm curious about the client-signal-quality bandsteering (the 2nd bullet). 

EDIT: unfortunately, I cannot post links externally.

 

Link 1

Search, with quotes "The last element is software to assign 5 GHz clients to a radio based on the client's speed."

 

Link 2

Search, with quotes "ASUS RT-AC3200 Smart Connect: The Missing Manual"

 

Link 3

Search, with quotes "In this band steering mode, the AP uses client load and RSSI information balance the clients across" Aruba

 

Link 4

Search, with quotes "4 WiFi Band Steering Myths"

 

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2020-08-25 05:17:14 - last edited 2020-09-01 02:02:36

 

ikjadoon wrote

Because of that, I realized thread title is incorrect; it should be reworded "band steering based on RSSI / signal quality, instead of band steering based on load balancing number of clients per-band".

 

This is called »Load Balancing« in the Omada ecosystem:

 

 

Terminology often differs between vendors, actual implementations too.

 

BTW: This first and third sentences here:

 

The last element is software to assign 5 GHz clients to a radio based on the client's speed. The assignment algorithm takes not only client class into account, but actual link rate, which depends on signal strength and other factors. So XStream is smart enough, for example, to take a 2x2 AC867 class client with a low signal level and move it to the same radio as a 1x1 N150 device sitting close to the router.

 

are pure marketing bla bla. A technician would never speak of »speed« which is always the same for EM waves. The second sentence is probably what a technician told the marketing guy, since technicians speak of »link rates« or »WIFi rates« which determine the »throughput«, but never the »speed«.

 

The marketing guy then added »XStream« as something »smart«, but an AP cannot »move« clients to radios, it can just deny clients to connect to a certain radio. The decision to which radio to connect to if a certain radio refuses association of a client is up to the client alone. That's standard behavior of all clients to not connect to a radio if the signal quality of an AP is weak and another nearby AP with a better signal quality is present.

 

 

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