Need Help with Signal Strength - Install of EAP245s
understand the coverage map is an estimator, but just wanted to get some clarification on these as this is the first time I am using one.
Below is my current coverage map. The AP was defaulted at "HIGH" for Tx power. The red area was huge.
My plan was to put on where you see it on the map in the first picture, and another in the second picture. Sorry, only one EAP245 has shown up so far, waiting for two more (1 goes upstairs). I plan on putting one up in the Office, and one upstairs. I am worried my Nest Cameras will have issues connecting on 5ghz.
Right now they are set to HIGH
What worries me are the Nest cameras I have outside. I have two in front (one at the front door, the other on the far right side of the garage door opening).
We also use our phones in the backyard (pool) to manage our music in Sonos, so I have to make sure I get coverage there.
The yellow area after red, is this just weaker signal? Or do I want my areas completely covered in red?
Sorry for not having a full coverage map, my other two SHOULD be in tomorrow, but started to play with this now.
Also, should I be using two seperate SSIDs for 2GHz and 5GHz or just enabled the AP to do a single SSID for both?
So I installed my first one today. I am waiting for my cabling to come in.
Right now, I have it set to HIGH.
I moved the 2gh to channel 1 and the 5ghz to channel 149 based on congestion (lot of close houses in this sub division).
This just does not seem right. Have a look at my wifi analyzer.
I mounted it behind the TV. I do not think I can get up into the ceiling like Trip and I talked about before.
Wife threw a fit when I said I was going to mount to the top of the cubby, so I hid it behind the TV.
Here is what that room looks like:
You can see the red Xs were where I was thinking of placing the EAP245, and I ended up behind the TV.
I feel like the Netgear Nighthawk was stronger.
Here I am standing directly underneath of it. My SSIDs are DonkeyPunch and DonkeyPunch_5G (long story on the names).
If you see any others, they are just my other APs that I have not cleaned up yet.
This is me standing about 20 to 30 feet away, in the kitchen. Nothing between me and the AP besides the TV.
Here I am sitting in my wife's office, where the second AP was supposed to go.
5G in my wife's office
5G in my kitchen
Sitting in the kitchen on my laptop, I only pull down around 54MB on 2g and 200MB on 5G
Am I doing something wrong? Is this normal?
My real concern are my cameras in the front. I was hoping the AP in my wife's office would be able to have them connect on 5G.
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So looking at Rate and Signal, the three that I have been concerned about, in this order are:
My Wife's laptop in the office.
Nest Camera 2 (corner of house)
Nest Camera 1 (right outside her office at front door)
Wife's laptop Rate is currently connected to the Garage AP as it should be, on 5ghz, 866Mbps Rate and RSSI -64
Nest Camera 2 that has not shown any issues since firmware upgrade, on Garage AP, on 5ghz, 150Mbps and RSSi -72
Nest Cmara 2 on garage AP, 5ghz, 150Mbps RSSI -68
Brainstorming here, I COULD put the AP, in one of two spots.
I could jump move it up closer to the corner of the garage (in the pic below).
Or I could put it IN the ceiling, above the hallway. It would be in the ceiling though, sitting on top of drywayll. Would need to figure out a way to have it sit up there without the insulation laying on it. Maybe just hang it in the crawl space that is between the garage and hallway where I have access, angle towards the office? Then install the eap225-outdoor somewhere close to the garage door?
EDIT(Update): For whatever reason, i never noticed this.
In the pantry, there is an RJ45 jack. For some reason i always thought it was just a normal phone line.
In my main box in the master bedroom, that wire is a cat5e green wire (my network wires are blue so i always assumed it was a teleco wire).
Couldn't I just cut that wire there in the pantry, rewire it for an RJ45 at both ends (the end I cut in the picture below was already wired for RJ45), and throw an EAP225-Wall there?
That would cover my wife's office, and I could move the EAP245 in the garage closer to the garage door for my cameras?
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So update, I have all my APs installed.
You can see the AP in my garage, I have blue dots where I tried installing. No matter where I put it, I would either have problems with the Nest camera by the front door, or nest camera problems by the side of the house (both are marked in red).
I finally settled on its current spot, but am still having issues.
I have all AP setup by default. I have the one in the living room set to medium tx and the other two are low.
Couple of things I have noticed. A few clients will connect to an AP further away, even though the one closer to it has a better signal.
I have found that my wife's laptop would connect to the AP upstairs, even though the AP in the office is right there.
Quick not on that AP, it is on the wall like in that picture, but WALL MOUNTED, facing the front of the house.
I do have fast roaming turned on.
The other problem areas are my three Nest Cameras. I have not tried 2ghz, as I wanted to connect them on 5. But I keep having issues. Mostly the one by the garage, even though the RSSI is low on all three.
Nest Cam by the pool in back of the house
Nest Cam1 and 2 at the front of the house. The position I have it set at gives me the same RSSI but different mbps
Any suggestions on the roaming or how to resolve my nest camera 5ghz signal thing?
Should I add an outdoor AP or something?
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Hi @Lardo5150,
STOP!!! (JK) But you already have too many AP's as it is.
What is the problem you are seeing with the Nest? Are these IQ or regular? Hello?
Your RSSI's are fine. Is the issue you are seeing the negotiated link speed? Those look like 2.4GHz speeds. Turn off Band Steering, and use separate SSID's for 2.4 and 5.8GHz. Join your Nest cam's to the 5.8GHz.
My indoor IQ's connect at 600-866 Mbit/sec. Except for my Hello which only typically has an RSSI of -86 dBm on 5.8GHz.
Also, if you have a steel garage door -- mine is double wall steel with high density foam insulation, the AP in the garage is not going to work well. RF doesn't transmit through steel. It would be better to put the AP in the hallway / Entryway. This will cover the office and your wife's laptop, too.
-Jonathan
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Hi @Lardo5150,
Here are my current Nests (2 indoor IQ and a Hello (which is outside). I have two more in the box (outdoor IQ) as well I need to install. They do "move around" to different AP's. I'm still working on adjusting my 225-Outdoor. I'm not that happy with it yet.
-Jonathan
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Gotcha @Lardo5150,
Re: SSID & bands. Sorry. Might check the spec's of the 1st gen. Are the 802.11 a, n, or ac? You might bring one in (if you can easily) and put it near an AP and see how fast it can go. If it can do 2.4n (for example) but only 5.8a then 2.4 might be better. 2.4 also transmits further / better.
An outdoor could be an option. So far I'm underwhelmed with mine. But it is on wireless MESH. I feel like when my outdoor clients are too close to it doesn't work as well as when they are ~20-30 feet away. Maybe this is because I have it mounted too high? 8 feet.
One other thin to think about is the "directionality" of the EAP RF cones. There are a few other recent posts here on the board about this R1D2 and/or jonas have some good posts with diagrams.
The RF cone from the EAP225/245 is mostly conical in nature (not a spherical -- though it is a little). So for example, think about how large the "cone of silence" is coming down from your 2nd floor AP. Where as the one in the Garage is mostly pointed down.
You might try, for example, temporary mounting the one in the garage on the back wall facing towards the front of the house. Mount it maybe 4-6 feet high, roughly centered (in terms of the width of the house). This should help your Nests and pickup the office as well.
You said the AP on the second floor is on low? You can use the load balancing feature to limit the RSSI of clients to try and encourage them to use a closer AP.
-Jonathan
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Quick FYI, the outside of my home is brick, not sure if that is giving me troubles as well.
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Great! Sounds like you're making good progress!
I'm really happy with the stability and aggregate performance of my EAP's. On any give day, I average ~60GB per day (which is really not very much) and 45-50 clients -- all of my Rokus are hardwired. But on peak days, if my son is downloading a new game for his laptop or Xbox this could be 100GB-150GB per day. Nothing by corporate standards, but with Covid we routinely have multiple Zoom, Teams, VPN's, all while simultaneously streaming Youtube on multiple iPads, playing Roblox on muliple iPads, Rainbow Six, Rocket Leage, Valient all without ever missing a beat.
-Jonathan
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If it is real brick -- e.g. 3+ inches thick, yes, that will attenuate the signal a fair amount. Not as much as steel. But much more than drywall / viny siding. My house is all drywall / viny siding and I get some 5GHz outslde -- for about ~10 feet or so. That's why I got the Outdoor for the back yard,
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