[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?

[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2020-09-29 09:07:52 - last edited 2020-09-30 08:35:02

While reading the datasheet of the EAP230/EAP235 I found that those access points do not support seamless routing features, i.e. IEE 802.11k/v/r. This doesn´t make sense to me, as those access points are meant to be placed into floors, aswell. @TP-Link  So could you please tell me whether those features will be available in the future?

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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2020-09-29 17:22:12

@mobb My guess is that the chipset used doesn't support it but man this is a major turn down. I was thinking about replacing my EAP-225 by a couple of those strategically placed

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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2020-09-29 23:31:02 - last edited 2020-09-29 23:35:28

@mobb, EAP-Walls are meant to be placed into hotel rooms, seamless roaming makes no sense there.

 

From the feature list of EAP230-Wall:

 

 

Their signal strength / antenna gain is exactly adapted to this application, it makes no sense at all to replace EAP225 with EAP-Wall models.

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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2020-09-30 00:30:39 - last edited 2020-09-30 01:53:55

 

R1D2 wrote

@mobb, EAP-Walls are meant to be placed into hotel rooms, seamless roaming makes no sense there.

 

From the feature list of EAP230-Wall:

 

 

Their signal strength / antenna gain is exactly adapted to this application, it makes no sense at all to replace EAP225 with EAP-Wall models.

@R1D2 

 

I often book multi-rooms and multi-stories hotels suites.

 

and offices are less and less numerous separated rooms... at least in North America. They are open floors with people going to others desks with their laptops... this looks like a new product designed for previous decade...

 

 

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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2020-10-04 02:45:46

Dear @mobb,

 

@TP-Link  So could you please tell me whether those features will be available in the future?

 

Sorry there is no such plan at present. I've written this down for further evaluation. Thank you for your feedback here.

Best Regards!
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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2020-10-29 08:15:35

@Fae Yes, please do so! Please also consider a version for use in residential buildings.

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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2020-11-08 04:27:33
Hi, I would like to also put my vote in for seamless wifi roaming support. Thanks!
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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2021-01-31 21:40:20

Well, I suggest to enable 802.11k/v/r in a future firmware. Also, is airtime fairness currently available for EAP235 access point? The access point uses a Mediatek MT7615 chipset, so the hardware supports it.

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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2021-02-11 09:54:38

@Fae If I understand correctly, the seamless roaming of eap230-wall can be solved by OC200, right? I am planning to mount multiple EAP245 and Eap230-wall on different floors, will OC200 manage the seamless roaming between the AP's? 

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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2021-02-11 14:16:29
i would suggest to stay away from all Mediatek crap, there is a lot of issues with this chippset.
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Re:[EAP230-Wall/EAP235-Wall] Why no IEEE 802.11k/v/r (Seamless Roaming)?
2021-07-22 17:59:50

@Fae has this been reviewed or reprioritized? the eap235 wall is an excellent device and the assumption that it is for hotel installs doesn't mean that fast roaming 802.11k and 802.11v are not desirable. For example: a user starts a VoIP call on teams or zoom in their hotel room from their cell phone and then they walk out into a hallway that directly connects to the lobby (no elevator for simplicity). I would expect the session to jump from AP to AP gracefully as the mover roams through different AP coverage areas. Just because hotel rooms are relatively self contained does not mean that the user themselves are contained to sessions in that room only. 

 

Many hotels have already run ethernet jacks to desk-height type wallplates and junction boxes. These can EASILY be converted to wifi APs using these EAP335 Wall units.

 

Even outside of that, for home/domestic use: these devices are also perfect as many people have begun running ethernet to similar termination points that hotels have done for 2 decades now - essentially to desk level wall plates. This is a perfect application and large market for the EAP335 Wall and is actually my exact use case.

 

On another note: it is not easy to compare which features each of the omada EAP devices support which 802.11 roaming standards. The comparison page Access Points | TP-Link only lets users filter on the wireless standards 802.11ac/ax/n. To find the roaming standards support one must open the EAP Datasheet and scroll down MANY pages where the devices are grouped on form factor and mounting locations. This is not helpful.

 

So, I have two EAP335 walls that are going to be delivered today to add to my current deployment of 3xEAP620hd and 2xEAP225 outdoor APs, 1xOC200, 1xTL-R605, 1xTL-SG2210MP, 1xTL-SG2008P. Unfortunately, the fast roaming feature is THE REASON I went with TP-Link omada devices and it turns out some of the devices in the series do not support this feature. 

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