Ok, im stuck on this! Direct Side-Network VPN injection flakey....

Ok, im stuck on this! Direct Side-Network VPN injection flakey....

Ok, im stuck on this! Direct Side-Network VPN injection flakey....
Ok, im stuck on this! Direct Side-Network VPN injection flakey....
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This is complex, so bear with me

 

For maximum security, and to pass audit, i want to completely limit the ability of VPN connected client to access things - even gateway GUIs, which, post 5.15 firmwares - as confirmed by clive - are no longer blocked for IPsec clients regardless of gateway ACL entries.

 

My solution was to implement a side-network "direct injection" VPN

 

How this works

 

Main network - ER8411 > SG3428X > Stuff.   All vlans are switch routed and hosted by SVIs on the 3428X.  Works perfect

Networks to be accessible to VPN - 192.168.0.0/20

 

VPN Network - ER605 (obtained new running 2.2.6).  Has an interface matching main network management vlan.  VPNs set up - Local networks 192.168.0.0/20, Remotes 172.16.0.0/12

 

Gateway Static route 192.168.0.0/20 > Main network Management interface on SG3428X

SG3428X static route 172.16.0.0/12 > ER605 hosting the VPNs

 

ER605 has WAN>IN and LAN>WAN ACLs to control what i want allowed between remote and local vlans, and blocking IP_Port_Groups to various network devices and Gateway GUIs on the main networks.

 

Basic Topology diagram

 

All of this works great.  I can connect to the VPNs on the ER605 v2, access main network resources, everything i want is blocked etc etc

 

Now - the problem is - the VPN sometimes seems to go "dead" for up to a minute at a time.  No traffic to/from the main switch SG3428X.  When its "dead" i can still access the GUI of the ER605 so i know the VPN tunnel is still active.  Im fairly sure its not the route from the switch to the ER605 as other routes it has always work without issues.

 

Why is the VPN route from the ER605 v2 to the Switch sometimes going dead for up to a minute at a time but the VPN tunnel to the 605 remains active?

 

Other things i have tested

- Swapped the 605 running 2.2.6 for one with 2.3.0 - same issue

- Changed the switch the gateway route points to for another and reconfigured internal main routing to match - same issue

- Added VLAN interfaces on the ER605 to match each one accessible on the main network and set routing for each subnet to point to the direct SVI of the switch for the matching subnet - same issue

- Tried this with a ER7206 v2 running 2.2.3 - same issue

- Hosting the VPNs directly on the ER8411 of the main site - never an issue, but cant apply the same granular ACLs as i need any more as its on 1.3.2

 

 

 

 

 

Main: ER8411 x1, SG3428X x1, SG3452 x1, SG2428LP x1, SG3210 x1, SG2218P x1, SG2008P x3, ES208G x1, EAP650 x6 Remote: ER7206 v2 x1, ER605 v2 x3, SG2008P x2, EAP650 x2, ES205G x1 Controller: OC300
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Re:Ok, im stuck on this! Direct Side-Network VPN injection flakey....
3 hours ago

  @GRL 

Thank you for your post. If both of your routers and the SG3428X are managed by the same Controller, we can follow up via email. Meanwhile, please also grant us Cloud Access so we can review the configuration. Additionally, could you let us know how frequently this issue occurs and how you test or observe that the routing between the Gateway and the Switch becomes dead? Do they recover automatically after going dead?

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Re:Ok, im stuck on this! Direct Side-Network VPN injection flakey....
3 hours ago - last edited 2 hours ago

 Yep, its all on the same controller,  drop me an email and we can follow up

 

I can observe that somewhere, somehow, the routing goes dead because , for example - controller GUI goes unresponsive (im accessing it over the VPN and routing tunnel), RDP to a server goes dead, SSH to some devices go dead.

 

It does automatically recover anywhere from a few seconds to a couple minutes later.  Happens very intermittently and not in a way i can force it to happen, it just does.

 

It also seems to track with the controller not getting data from remote sites (controller is on main ER8411 site, remote sites all connect and are adopted over VPN)

 

Main: ER8411 x1, SG3428X x1, SG3452 x1, SG2428LP x1, SG3210 x1, SG2218P x1, SG2008P x3, ES208G x1, EAP650 x6 Remote: ER7206 v2 x1, ER605 v2 x3, SG2008P x2, EAP650 x2, ES205G x1 Controller: OC300
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