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Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers

 
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Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers
Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers
a week ago
Tags: #Data Cap
Model: ER8411  
Hardware Version: V1
Firmware Version: 1.3.2 Build 20250610 Rel 85512

We are having a campus Managed Wifi solution with 71 Tp-Link EAPs, 40+ switches (non-Tp-Link) for layer2 and TL-ER8411 Load balancing router for the Layer-3 Gateway and WAN aggregation function. This is in India.

Our WAN network has 6 Broadband Connections of 100-200 mbps speeds each but data caps ranging from 1.5 TB to 3 TB on each connections (FUP - Free Usage Policy). The cumulative bandwidth is then rationed among EAP Wifi Clients (8 mbps, 4 mbps, 1 mbps). In general our load  is 30-40 mbps during day time for the Load balalncer and falls to 10-15 mbps at night. So speed is not a concern for us but the data caps on the broadband connections due to follwoing scenario:

(1) Soemtimes few connections go down due to network outages and may take upto a week to be addressed in worst case.
(2) The load balancer distributes applicationn TCP connection load acoording to static weights assigned in the load balancer.
(3) However in corner cases, mostly towards the end of month, one or more Broadband connection's data cap (FUP) is reached (we have no contyrol or visibility on how data is actually transferred on a data connection) and the ISP throttles the bandwidth to 512 kbps after that for that connection
(4) Due to the throttling of an individual connection, the new connection traffuc still hits the throttled WAN as per the *static load balancing weights configured. Some apps on wifi devices face slow internet speeds while others are fine (if they are on non-throttled connections). This results is a very inconsistent app experience.
(5) It has also caused problem with Omada SDN configuration chnages done for EAPs from mobile app or web portal (omada.tplinkcloud.com)

The ISPs do not have a feature of disabling post FUP data speed to zero, but they just throttle to 512 kbps for all their customers

 

So we think one potential way to solve this is to impose a data limit at the Load balalancer for each WAN connection. If this limit is reached mark the connection as down or something where it is no longer used in the load balancer. Then their has to be another feature to manually release the lock on the connection, which we can do at the beginning of every billing cycle using the mobile app itself. We see that bandwidth control feature of Omada throttles WAN connection speed, but no data cap control is implemented

Can such a data cap feature be implemented to supplement the WAN connection speed rate limiting ?

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Re:Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers
a week ago

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

The controller provides the portal which should be the one you are looking for. 

Portal can set the speed and data cap. 

The router itself does not handle this and portal-related job. 

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Re:Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers
a week ago - last edited a week ago

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

The controller provides the portal which should be the one you are looking for. 

Portal can set the speed and data cap. 

The router itself does not handle this and portal-related job. 

  @Clive_A 


We are looking at a rate limiter which caps the total usage on a WAN Link 
 

Please let me know how to enforce a data total usage cap at WAN interface level (not client, AP or SSID which I am aware are implemented and we use the client rate limiter) if that is already implemented by Tp-Link

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Re:Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers
a week ago

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

APRC-P3-Tel wrote

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

The controller provides the portal which should be the one you are looking for. 

Portal can set the speed and data cap. 

The router itself does not handle this and portal-related job. 

  @Clive_A 


We are looking at a rate limiter which caps the total usage on a WAN Link 
 

Please let me know how to enforce a data total usage cap at WAN interface level (not client, AP or SSID which I am aware are implemented and we use the client rate limiter) if that is already implemented by Tp-Link

Bandwidth control.

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Re:Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers
a week ago

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

APRC-P3-Tel wrote

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

The controller provides the portal which should be the one you are looking for. 

Portal can set the speed and data cap. 

The router itself does not handle this and portal-related job. 

  @Clive_A 


We are looking at a rate limiter which caps the total usage on a WAN Link 
 

Please let me know how to enforce a data total usage cap at WAN interface level (not client, AP or SSID which I am aware are implemented and we use the client rate limiter) if that is already implemented by Tp-Link

Bandwidth control.

  @Clive_A 

Here is what I see in the Bandwidth Control Section:



Their are rate limiting controls for link bandwidth (kbps/mbps) but not on total data usage (GB/TB/etc) which is what we am looking for. Wew had been through this section previously,

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Re:Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers
a week ago

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

APRC-P3-Tel wrote

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

APRC-P3-Tel wrote

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

The controller provides the portal which should be the one you are looking for. 

Portal can set the speed and data cap. 

The router itself does not handle this and portal-related job. 

  @Clive_A 


We are looking at a rate limiter which caps the total usage on a WAN Link 
 

Please let me know how to enforce a data total usage cap at WAN interface level (not client, AP or SSID which I am aware are implemented and we use the client rate limiter) if that is already implemented by Tp-Link

Bandwidth control.

  @Clive_A 

Here is what I see in the Bandwidth Control Section:



Their are rate limiting controls for link bandwidth (kbps/mbps) but not on total data usage (GB/TB/etc) which is what we am looking for. Wew had been through this section previously,

I am not sure I understand what you are after.

For example, your fiber has a data plan of 100GB per month.

You want to set a cap for this fiber data usage? No, there is no such option ever. 

 

I believe this is also not possible to implement. If you are talking about the USB connection, you can set the limit on the 4G USB dongle for that data limit.

As for the router, this is not intended and is not supposed to be there. 

 

Landlines usually do not have this limitation. 

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Re:Need Data Cap feature on WAN Connections for WAN-aggregation/Load-Balancing Routers
a week ago

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

APRC-P3-Tel wrote

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

APRC-P3-Tel wrote

Clive_A wrote

  @APRC-P3-Tel 

The controller provides the portal which should be the one you are looking for. 

Portal can set the speed and data cap. 

The router itself does not handle this and portal-related job. 

  @Clive_A 


We are looking at a rate limiter which caps the total usage on a WAN Link 
 

Please let me know how to enforce a data total usage cap at WAN interface level (not client, AP or SSID which I am aware are implemented and we use the client rate limiter) if that is already implemented by Tp-Link

Bandwidth control.

  @Clive_A 

Here is what I see in the Bandwidth Control Section:



Their are rate limiting controls for link bandwidth (kbps/mbps) but not on total data usage (GB/TB/etc) which is what we am looking for. Wew had been through this section previously,

I am not sure I understand what you are after.

For example, your fiber has a data plan of 100GB per month.

You want to set a cap for this fiber data usage? No, there is no such option ever. 

 

I believe this is also not possible to implement. If you are talking about the USB connection, you can set the limit on the 4G USB dongle for that data limit.

As for the router, this is not intended and is not supposed to be there. 

 

Landlines usually do not have this limitation. 

  @Clive_A 

Yes. This is exactly what we want. And I get it clearly that its not possible for TP-Link to implement. Any 3rd Party app ways feasible, like 

(1) We run a background process which Queries the SDN controller every 1 minute on the total data usage on each WAN link ? Tplink does track Total usage as I can see this stat on the app
(2) If total usage exceeds Configured Cap (in the process), then we send a command to SDN Controller to disable the WAN interface and send email/log to administrator. Such commands need to be logged.
(3) The administrator can then decide when to re-enable the WAN link and do it manually

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