Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?

Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-08 11:41:51

Hi, 

 

as Omada does not support Username+Password, any chance to use public VPN networks at all? 

Or is there no other way then to setup your own VPN-server in a datacenter-location of choice? (I need it to circumvent regional locks, therefore I would like beeing able to select egress location)

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-08 14:58:52

  @RobertMEF hello, l2tp should work, you should better ask vpn providers if they offer any protocol. Openvpn can not be used for now and even if, your speed would be very low.

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-10 20:23:49

  @RobertMEF 

 

I don't understand why wouldn't name and password work if you include it in a text file and reference it in the .ovpn config file .
 

Create a text file with username on the first line and password on the second line - if the text file is named auth.txt then you can put this line in the .ovpn file .

auth-user-pass auth.txt 

 

This method works with other openvpn clients .  Why does it not work with OMADA ?

It doesn't work for me .

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-10 20:34:24

  @btx 

Are you stating that OpenVPN definitely cannot be used to connect OMADA ER605 to NordVPN account ?

I guess I will try the L2TP .

To use my dedicated IP, I have to use OpenVPN .

Thanks for making that clear .  Until now, I had not seen any information about whether or not it would work and i have tried numerous attempts / methods to get some kind of connection to work .

 

I also tried running OpenVPN server on my notebook and then connect from my desktop using OMADA / ER605 .  Even with A no password account, I cannot get any connection from desktop to notebook using OMADA .  However, any of the generic OpenVPN clients connect with no problem .

 

 

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-10 21:25:24

  @btx 

 

Well, I guess I won't be using L2TP .

Why is OMADA using obselete / outdated protocols ?

The following text is found on NordVPN site .  They stopped supporting L2TP AND PPTP about 4 years ago .

 

Why we have discontinued L2TP and PPTP protocols?

 

On December 1st, 2018 NordVPN’s servers stopped supporting L2TP/IPsec and PPTP connections.

NordVPN aims is to provide top-notch security and privacy standards to our customers. As the Internet and technology world rapidly advances and moves forward, we witness a tendency that users are shifting from using outdated, inconvenient encryption solutions to more advanced ones. L2TP and PPTP protocols are largely obsolete. Because they are so insecure, they have become incompatible with a key part of our core mission – to provide our users with industry-leading security.

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-11 01:10:32

kablammy wrote

  @btx 

 

Well, I guess I won't be using L2TP .

Why is OMADA using obselete / outdated protocols ?

The following text is found on NordVPN site .  They stopped supporting L2TP AND PPTP about 4 years ago .

 

Why we have discontinued L2TP and PPTP protocols?

 

On December 1st, 2018 NordVPN’s servers stopped supporting L2TP/IPsec and PPTP connections.

NordVPN aims is to provide top-notch security and privacy standards to our customers. As the Internet and technology world rapidly advances and moves forward, we witness a tendency that users are shifting from using outdated, inconvenient encryption solutions to more advanced ones. L2TP and PPTP protocols are largely obsolete. Because they are so insecure, they have become incompatible with a key part of our core mission – to provide our users with industry-leading security.

  @kablammy hello, I am not in any way involved with tplink and can not reply why they do not offer something, l2tp and pptp are not obsolete for many, they are obsolete for most vpn companies selling vpn services to be recommended, but nothing prevents you to use outdated unencrytped protocol over any modern encrypted tunnel (like wireguard). You have also to understand that for example openvpn will give you with your router max. 40Mbit and l2pt should be around 200 (maybe more). This is the answer why some still use it.

 

There are quite few new protocols, but wireguard is a big miss with omada. Why omada does not offer it is probably better directed to tplink, but I would believe that they simply use outdated kernel and they do not want to upgrade or they had consultants without proper view at wireguard, but again, this is is just my assumption.

 

And before you bash on omada, not all, including NordVPN, do not offer most modern protocols, they do not give you a possibility as example to use wireguard, you can do it only with their app, but you can not use native wireguard client with them. Beside that, there are some other features missing like port forwarding which one mostly does want to have if used on a router, for omada you already need few ports. Depending on your requirements, like already written in previous reply, please ask potential vpn providers if they can offer connection type which would work with your router. You probably also should know that (as far as I remember) tplink considers adding username/pass which would mean that already with next upgrade it might be available, however, with er605 v1 you are restricted to 40Mbit max and with er605 v2 it should be 200Mbit (I did not test v2).

 

You can rent a server too instead of paying for vpn, then you can setup own vpn.

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-11 17:26:04 - last edited 2022-08-11 17:39:03

  @btx 

 

Thanks for that information .  I will contact NordVPN about being able to connect using my ER605 .

About the the speed limits you mentioned, I suppose that you are specifically referring to limitations with TP-Link software VPN configurations and not general VPN traffic through TP-Link hardware .

Using a Windows 10 OpenVPN app, I can often get over 300 Mbps .

Funny that I saw some cheap portable VPN routers which claim they have OpenVPN and Wireguard preinstalled and are compatible with 30+ VPN service providers .

I wonder what would be the disadvantages of trying to use that in front or behind my ER605 ?

Oh - nevermind about those little portables - I kept reading and I found out that the bandwidth is very low using their VPN ...

 

 

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-11 18:24:25 - last edited 2022-08-11 18:26:55

kablammy wrote

  @btx 

 

Thanks for that information .  I will contact NordVPN about being able to connect using my ER605 .

About the the speed limits you mentioned, I suppose that you are specifically referring to limitations with TP-Link software VPN configurations and not general VPN traffic through TP-Link hardware .

Using a Windows 10 OpenVPN app, I can often get over 300 Mbps .

Funny that I saw some cheap portable VPN routers which claim they have OpenVPN and Wireguard preinstalled and are compatible with 30+ VPN service providers .

I wonder what would be the disadvantages of trying to use that in front or behind my ER605 ?

Oh - nevermind about those little portables - I kept reading and I found out that the bandwidth is very low using their VPN ...

 

 

  @kablammy you are welcome. Speed limits mentioned are to be found in technical descrption of er605. And yes, there are hardware limitation and as example with er605 v1 you get max. speed of 45Mbit with open vpn according the documentation, that low speed is mostly due openvpn being very resource hungry. Beside the low speed, if you download with 40Mbit your er605's cpu will go to the max, causing heating troubles and in general its functions may suffer on not enough remaining cpu, all of that of course raises the chances of some fault, like burning down the mainboard.

 

Your windows 10 can get normally easily 300Mbit with openvpn because as first most desktops have much more powerfull cpus than er605's and additionally many cpus support aes, which makes openvpn hardware accelarated.

 

Which cheap small do you mean? If you mean GliNet routers, they all do indeed support all vpn providers, its not due the brand, it is due to openwrt which supports any protocol and Glinet delivers own hw with openwrt installed. However, all their better models do have cpus with aes support and those will get easily 200-300Mbit with openvpn too.

 

You can buy for less than € 20 a SoC board with higher performance with openvpn. If you need it for openvpn, then buy any device with aes support and you will get max out what openvpn can deliver. For highspeed networks of 1Gbit and higher, just forget openvpn, either ipsec or much better wireguard would be my recommendation.

 

Openvpn is not concepted for high speed networks, wireguard is built for highspeed networks and gets best performance without aes or some other cpu feature. Whoever sits in tplink at deciding position for not providing wireguard vpn should be ashamed and leave this position giving a chance to some skillfull youths who are up to date.

 

Main difference from er605 v1 and v2 is that v2s seems to have aes support and that is why it can reach 200Mbit, its not that much stronger cpu, but hardware accelerated. If you did not buy er605 and are deciding, then better go for er605 v2, I feel betrayed by tplink as they released v2 right after I purchased v1.

 

Contact torguard or mullvad instead of norsk, they both offer configs for native clients and admins are willing to customize, do not throw the money away with norsk. I already gave one user here demo access to 10Gbit network, I could give it to you too, but since vpn choice really is based on different wishes, please try them all, insist on testing period especially as support of so many vpn providers will claim it works, then you pay and find.out it does not work.

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-11 19:09:44 - last edited 2022-08-11 19:46:33

  @btx 

 

I will contact torguard and mullvad and give them a test if they allow pre-sales testing  .

I already have subscription to norsk though .  I also have dedicated IP ( which is accessible only via OpenVPN ), which is why I am attempting to get that to work at present .

 

A few months ago, I found out what you mean about VPN providers making claims that total falacies .

The worse one I encountered was ExpressVPN .  After I signed up, they gave me a dedicated server in California when I am in Florida .  They wouldn't change it so I got a refund .  It was worse than bad . 

I get good throughput to near server using norsk .  However, the OpenVPN server for my dedicated IP is in Texas .  I think it is pretty good to get 300 Mbps frequently .

 

Another funny thing that I found when trying to get Omada OpenVPN to work connecting to any OpenVPN that I could find ...  I found a free OpenVPN server that worked great with Windows client app ( almost as good as the norsk VPN server in Texas ) .  Guess where that free OpenVPN is located ? ? ? France ! ! !

 

I tried several of the free servers and a bunch of them would not connect at all .  I have to wonder why anyone would put up a free VPN server just as I wondered about free proxy servers .  I guess they are collecting IP addresses or other traffic data .

 

Woah !  I just discovered something wild .  I connected to that free VPN server in France and did a speed test using speedtest dot net in a Firefox browser .  At first I was getting very low speed then I get a red box with a message saying that there was a socket error :

'

A socket error occurred during the upload test. A firewall could be blocking the connection or the server might be having some issues. Please try again later.

'

 

Oh yeah, had to edit to add this :

The domain for the VPN is server1 dot freevpn dot me .  That is in France .  The domain freevpn dot me apparently resovles to several IP addresses one is unknown and one is coudflare or cloudflarenet in the USA . ( Chicago )

 

Nothing suspicious about that - huh ?
 

Then, I turned off Avast and the test speed was over 300 Mbps down .  Then I disconnected from the VPN and did a test and it was 678 Mbps down and over 30 Mbps up .

 

So, I wonder how speedtest.net connection via a web browser is having trouble with a firewall ?  Man ! That sounds like the terminal end of the connection is trying to do things to my system ? ? ?  I don't get any warnings or problems after I turn Avast back on though .  Good thing I have backups and mutiple boot drives on this system ...

I wish I were smart enough to be able to capture all the packets coming in and see what they are doing or see if there were hits to the firewall that were being denied and what ports they were .

Well, I looked it up and apparently it is a common trouble with speedtest.net and firewall settings .

 

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-12 14:09:57

  @kablammy you should void testing with with speedtest.net, better use iperf3 with which you also can test speed of your lan ports, wifi etc. Search for public iperf3 server and test with 10Gbit+ servers.

 

About vpn and cloudflare, that is pretty normal. Server in France might not be real server in France but a peer connection.

 

Torguard offers private ip, streaming ip, betting ip, ... next to dedicated server which is more expensive. Port forwarding (20 ports) is also available, for US customers Canada IPs might be preffered choice for those who need torrenting. You also can use wireguard protocol.

 

All vpn providers use quite same DC's, it is often important how your ISP is connected, some close servers might not always be the fastest, but in general the closer the better.

 

They all offer money refund if you are not satisfied and you have to test first how it works with your server.

 

Often support just cares about signup as they get rewarded and mostly everybody says it should work which equals do not know if it works.

 

For torguard you also do not need name, address, credit card...

 

People think too much about vpn and false assumption to be secure, the only purpose for using those commercial vpns is to stop your isp provider snooping on you, for everything else own server is mostly better and a little bit more expensive. A lot people used it to buy cheaper services from other countries, as example nezflix which has different pricing.

 

If you need some discounts let me know.

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Re:Any public VPN-provider (ie NordVPN) compatible with Omada?
2022-08-12 18:45:45 - last edited 2022-08-12 18:52:47

  @btx 

 

I still have one year left on my norsk subscription .

I am thinking about trying out torguard anonymous vpn pro account .   With a one year plan they give a TGLifetime50 promo code that brings the price down to $ 59.50 a year .

That is only about $ 1, a month, more than norsk . ( and that is for a 2 year plan )

I could test that out and if it is no better than norsk, I will request a refund .

 

If you do have a better discount than that - please send it to my throw-away email test2 at edlogic dot com .

Thanks again for the good information and advice .

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