EAP610-Outdoor - Is it really Omni-Directional?

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EAP610-Outdoor - Is it really Omni-Directional?
EAP610-Outdoor - Is it really Omni-Directional?
2023-03-27 14:23:01
Model: EAP610-Outdoor  
Hardware Version: V1
Firmware Version: 1.0.6 Build 20220415 Rel. 63538

Based on the description, this AP is Omni-Directional BUT based on my actual testing, this is directional.

 

Infront of the AP, I can get a good signal even at 400Meters away.

Both sides and back of the AP has a very poor signal even at 10Meters only.

All test have no obstruction and with line of sight to the AP.

 

 

Am I missing something in my Omada setup?

 

 

 

 

 

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Re:EAP610-Outdoor - Is it really Omni-Directional?
2023-03-27 15:44:43 - last edited 2023-03-27 15:48:01

I also have an EAP610-Outdoor and agree with your assessment. Signal is weak from the sides and much stronger out the front and the back. Strongest signal is in FRONT of the EAP610-Outdoor, and where 2.4Ghz is projected the farthest. I would say the signal is more elliptical than it is spherical, which is generally the case with most EAP equipment. Depends on where the internal antennas are placed, etc. 

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2023-03-27 19:22:18 - last edited 2023-03-28 03:23:48

  @Ric04jan72 

 

This is an older app note, but give you the idea of where TPlink is thinking when it comes to outdoor APs

 

https://www.tp-link.com/us/support/faq/1044/

 

If you need omni outdoor, you should grab the EAP225-outdoors, they have two dipoles which are omni.  My bet is the EAP610-outdoor has a printed antenna array (ie PCB antenna and these are often directional).

 

Here's proof they are PCB antennas

 

 

 

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2023-03-27 23:28:15
I agree. I have 4 EAP225 Outdoor antennas on my network and they all work a treat as an Omni-directional antenna.
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2023-03-28 02:03:24

To: FAE,

 

How come that your description about this AP is omni but in actual performance, this is directional.

 

Source: EAP Datasheet (full version).pdf (tp-link.com)

 

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2023-03-28 03:22:51

  @Ric04jan72 

 

The beam patterns of the 225 vs 610 from the datasheet you linked, would seem to argue that the 610's are actually more consistently 'omni', but the 225's may concentrate more useful power in an imaginary 'doughnut' shaped zone around them where users are most likely to be, rather than fairly equally distributed throughout a sphere surrounding the 610...but maybe I'm reading these wrong, it's been a while!

 

At least the 225 plots have coloured positional markers and an image to help you orient yourself!

 

 

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2023-03-28 08:14:29

  @d0ugmac1 

Please correct me if I am wrong but, the omnidirectional spectrograph of the antennas illustrated are of the antennas downlink beam, which when broadcast at for example 14dbm, is a relatively moderate power output, which would easily pass through any of the plastic housing that the antenna has. The EAP610 antenna, like the EAP225 outdoor, is mounted on a pole, which unless is made from a likewise material to the antenna it's self, would also become an obstruction from this direction, degrading the incoming and outgoing signal. The spectrograph of the antennas illustrated, will also have been calculated in a lab and probably mounted on a plastic or graphite pole, in a perfect environment.

The EAP225 antennas both sit above the antennas housing, where they are unobstructed from the mounting of any pole bracket if mounted at the top of the pole it's self, thus giving this antenna a clear line of site. And in my opinion, unless you need WIFI6, are a better antenna anyway.

The downlink is also a much better signal than the uplink, so any obstruction would cause loss in comms in the uplink, which in generally the case.

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Re:EAP610-Outdoor - Is it really Omni-Directional?
2023-03-28 13:17:44
Keep in mind that if beamforming is enabled (which it is by default) and there are devices that utilize it out in a specific area or direction, all bets are off for omnidirectional signal.
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