Clive_A wrote

Hi @GrenPa 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

With the current information, I don't think I can pick up a problem.

GrenPa wrote

Hello,

 

I need some help as I am confused.

Been watching videos and reading on vlan but cant seem to make it work.

 

I have 1 Router (No Vlan Settings)

2 x TL-SG108E and many devices..

 

Switch 1 is connected to Router on Port 1

1 Computer connected to Switch 1 on Port 3

1 Computer connect to Switch 1 on Port 5

Switch 1 Port 8 is Connected to Switch 2 on Port 8

 

Switch 2 on Port 1 & 3 are 2 Devices

Switch 2 on Port 5 is a Printer I need all switches and devices to see and use.

Switch 2 on Port 7 is a Computer.

 

So on switch 1 the 2 computers on port 3 & 5 I would like on own vlan where all they see is internet and the printer on Switch 2 on Port 5

 

On Switch 2 Port 1 need on own vlan to see internet and Printer

Switch 2 Port 3 need own vlan can only see internet and Printer

Switch 2 Port 5 I need all connected devices on both switches to use it as its printer.

 

Switch 2 Port 7 Computer Is main Computer I need to be able to see the switches to program/setup new devices on either switch and see abd use internet and PRinter.

 

Every Time I try to setup I either lose internet, on most or all devices or cant reconnect to switches and then I factory reset and try again.

 

Most videos and posts I find assume Router has Vlan which mine does not and is ISP Router. Went throu every Router page and fields and called ISP to be told no Vlan on Router.

 

Can someone Point me to a good page or website(s) as Tired of screwing up settings and access.

 

I have very basic layout of devices and ports.

 

 

Thanks.

GrenPa

You want to see the PCs and printers so they should be placed in the same VLAN. That's it.

Everything is based on the 802.1Q VLAN instead of the VLAN interface.

 

Regardless of what you want to do, you have to also make sure that your ISP router supports VLAN configuration. Or none of the trying is not gonna work.

 

If you need to find guides and docs, use the filter, label and tag system on the forum. Some existing guides should answer what you've asked.

How to configure 802.1Q VLAN on TP-Link Easy Smart/Unmanaged Pro Switches

  @Clive_A 

Hello Clive_A,

Thanks for your fast reply to my post.

My Router is supplied by ISP and cant be changed and Vlan is not an option for users to see.

If Router is changed to a non-isp router then service is lost or most of it. 

As for Vlan all pc's should see printer but I wanted none to see each other.

Just thought there might have been a way.

Thanks again

GrenPa

Clive_A wrote

Hi @GrenPa 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

GrenPa wrote

Clive_A wrote

Hi @GrenPa 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

With the current information, I don't think I can pick up a problem.

GrenPa wrote

Hello,

 

I need some help as I am confused.

Been watching videos and reading on vlan but cant seem to make it work.

 

I have 1 Router (No Vlan Settings)

2 x TL-SG108E and many devices..

 

Switch 1 is connected to Router on Port 1

1 Computer connected to Switch 1 on Port 3

1 Computer connect to Switch 1 on Port 5

Switch 1 Port 8 is Connected to Switch 2 on Port 8

 

Switch 2 on Port 1 & 3 are 2 Devices

Switch 2 on Port 5 is a Printer I need all switches and devices to see and use.

Switch 2 on Port 7 is a Computer.

 

So on switch 1 the 2 computers on port 3 & 5 I would like on own vlan where all they see is internet and the printer on Switch 2 on Port 5

 

On Switch 2 Port 1 need on own vlan to see internet and Printer

Switch 2 Port 3 need own vlan can only see internet and Printer

Switch 2 Port 5 I need all connected devices on both switches to use it as its printer.

 

Switch 2 Port 7 Computer Is main Computer I need to be able to see the switches to program/setup new devices on either switch and see abd use internet and PRinter.

 

Every Time I try to setup I either lose internet, on most or all devices or cant reconnect to switches and then I factory reset and try again.

 

Most videos and posts I find assume Router has Vlan which mine does not and is ISP Router. Went throu every Router page and fields and called ISP to be told no Vlan on Router.

 

Can someone Point me to a good page or website(s) as Tired of screwing up settings and access.

 

I have very basic layout of devices and ports.

 

 

Thanks.

GrenPa

You want to see the PCs and printers so they should be placed in the same VLAN. That's it.

Everything is based on the 802.1Q VLAN instead of the VLAN interface.

 

Regardless of what you want to do, you have to also make sure that your ISP router supports VLAN configuration. Or none of the trying is not gonna work.

 

If you need to find guides and docs, use the filter, label and tag system on the forum. Some existing guides should answer what you've asked.

How to configure 802.1Q VLAN on TP-Link Easy Smart/Unmanaged Pro Switches

  @Clive_A 

 

Hello Clive_A,

 

Thanks for your fast reply to my post.

My Router is supplied by ISP and cant be changed and Vlan is not an option for users to see.

If Router is changed to a non-isp router then service is lost or most of it. 

 

As for Vlan all pc's should see printer but I wanted none to see each other.

 

Just thought there might have been a way.

Thanks again

GrenPa

See it or not access it, that's a different story then.

If you want it to be not seen, 802.1Q VLAN.

No access, you can try out the VLAN.

 

As for the VLAN, if you don't see it, that also means no access to it from other PCs. Unless they are in the same VLAN.

ACL can easily block access even though they are still in the same network. PCs are blocked by the router ACL entry.

  @Clive_A ,

Hello,

So do I need a router that supports vlan to do it?

And how do I set it up so the computers and devices can use the printer as per port diagram in my first message?

As for ACL my Router is ISP and lacks many normal features (No Vlan) is the main issue, which is why I purchased the 2 switches or I would have stayed with hubs.

I am total noob in regards to vlan and me reading and watching dozens of Youtube videos.

And My attemps failed and I had to Factory reset the switches many times.

I ordered a NEtworking book for dummies but release date is mid december.

Thanks

GrenPa

Clive_A wrote

Hi @GrenPa 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

GrenPa wrote

Clive_A wrote

Hi @GrenPa 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

GrenPa wrote

Clive_A wrote

Hi @GrenPa 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

With the current information, I don't think I can pick up a problem.

GrenPa wrote

Hello,

 

I need some help as I am confused.

Been watching videos and reading on vlan but cant seem to make it work.

 

I have 1 Router (No Vlan Settings)

2 x TL-SG108E and many devices..

 

Switch 1 is connected to Router on Port 1

1 Computer connected to Switch 1 on Port 3

1 Computer connect to Switch 1 on Port 5

Switch 1 Port 8 is Connected to Switch 2 on Port 8

 

Switch 2 on Port 1 & 3 are 2 Devices

Switch 2 on Port 5 is a Printer I need all switches and devices to see and use.

Switch 2 on Port 7 is a Computer.

 

So on switch 1 the 2 computers on port 3 & 5 I would like on own vlan where all they see is internet and the printer on Switch 2 on Port 5

 

On Switch 2 Port 1 need on own vlan to see internet and Printer

Switch 2 Port 3 need own vlan can only see internet and Printer

Switch 2 Port 5 I need all connected devices on both switches to use it as its printer.

 

Switch 2 Port 7 Computer Is main Computer I need to be able to see the switches to program/setup new devices on either switch and see abd use internet and PRinter.

 

Every Time I try to setup I either lose internet, on most or all devices or cant reconnect to switches and then I factory reset and try again.

 

Most videos and posts I find assume Router has Vlan which mine does not and is ISP Router. Went throu every Router page and fields and called ISP to be told no Vlan on Router.

 

Can someone Point me to a good page or website(s) as Tired of screwing up settings and access.

 

I have very basic layout of devices and ports.

 

 

Thanks.

GrenPa

You want to see the PCs and printers so they should be placed in the same VLAN. That's it.

Everything is based on the 802.1Q VLAN instead of the VLAN interface.

 

Regardless of what you want to do, you have to also make sure that your ISP router supports VLAN configuration. Or none of the trying is not gonna work.

 

If you need to find guides and docs, use the filter, label and tag system on the forum. Some existing guides should answer what you've asked.

How to configure 802.1Q VLAN on TP-Link Easy Smart/Unmanaged Pro Switches

  @Clive_A 

 

Hello Clive_A,

 

Thanks for your fast reply to my post.

My Router is supplied by ISP and cant be changed and Vlan is not an option for users to see.

If Router is changed to a non-isp router then service is lost or most of it. 

 

As for Vlan all pc's should see printer but I wanted none to see each other.

 

Just thought there might have been a way.

Thanks again

GrenPa

See it or not access it, that's a different story then.

If you want it to be not seen, 802.1Q VLAN.

No access, you can try out the VLAN.

 

As for the VLAN, if you don't see it, that also means no access to it from other PCs. Unless they are in the same VLAN.

ACL can easily block access even though they are still in the same network. PCs are blocked by the router ACL entry.

  @Clive_A ,

 

Hello,

 

So do I need a router that supports vlan to do it?

And how do I set it up so the computers and devices can use the printer as per port diagram in my first message?

As for ACL my Router is ISP and lacks many normal features (No Vlan) is the main issue, which is why I purchased the 2 switches or I would have stayed with hubs.

I am total noob in regards to vlan and me reading and watching dozens of Youtube videos.

And My attemps failed and I had to Factory reset the switches many times.

I ordered a NEtworking book for dummies but release date is mid december.

 

Thanks

GrenPa

Sorry that I missed the message.

 

Ideally, I would recommend you consider a mature solution.

If you get a VLAN-supported router, that'd be very demanding on your network skills.

But if you want to expand your network, getting some knowledge about the network is necessary. You have to be able to maintain it after you build it. Or it only becomes trouble for your network.

 

I would recommend you get to learn about the VLAN and materials on the Internet are enough for regular people to understand. And you need to trial and error when you configure VLAN. This happened to me when I was learning about the VLAN.

 

The guide I wrote in the router and switch page have explained the basic config. If you want to learn, you should at least try it. It feels easy when you read them but it becomes trouble when you config them.

The example in the guide works at least. So you can use it as a template to learn more about the VLAN.

 

P.S.

You need a router that is capable of VLAN interface, 802.1Q VLAN and stateful ACL to achieve what you asked in the initial post.

 

 @Clive_A 

 

Hello Clive_A,

 

My ISP does not have a vlan router.

Other news I tried several routers with vlan but I lose my TV service.
Seems my ISP uses a hidden VLAN in their supplied router and it carries the TV signal.

No way to access it or assign other vlans to it.

I spent weeks googling and im not the only one with this issue with the ISP router & Store purchased router.

Short of cancelling my TV service I am stuck using their garbage Router.

 

Thanks