Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30 Pre-release (Updated on Apr 10th, 2024)

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-03 06:02:36

  @Hank21 OC200 Update?  It's been almost a month....  

 

We are still missing alot of things like WOL, DHCP Reservations (be able to set DNS for each reservation as well) .......  Maybe if you guys cannot add this DNS feature you should remove the need to ENFORCE a DHCP.......  I'll run DHCP from my Windows Server or whatever that has this function you haven't added since you started this.

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-03 06:16:04 - last edited 2024-02-03 06:16:35

  @MrHC1983 Well, when it comes to flexibility of features, the software controller is probably the best bet for this since the devs can just add more and more features to it coz they are not limited to the specs of the hardware that will run it, considering its upgradability.

But for the hardware controllers, the devs are sure taking their time adding new features to it since they are limited to its fixed hardware specs.

That's why until now, the DPI feature is still not added to the hardware controllers, even the IPS/IDS feature is currently (as the devs said before) not supported due to the hardware limitations of the controllers.

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-03 22:07:57 - last edited 2024-02-03 22:14:03

  @MrHC1983 Per this post the OC200 does not support DPI (part of the IDS/IPS functionality). Unless there is a recent firmware update that added DPI for the hardware controllers. If you have a screenshots of BOTH the following in the OC200 then they must have very recently added DPI to the hardware controllers:

 

 

 

I truly hope you are correct as tp-link's messaging around this has been unclear at best and I never understood why the hardware controllers could not support this function since it was the router doing all the hard work.

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-04 00:27:30

  @OrangeStreet You would be correct, I certainly don't have DPI....... on my OC200.  

 

If I turn on IDS/IPS etc when on Gigabit my speed which averages around 890-940Mbps down will drop to around 200-250......  so I leave it off except for overnight which seems to be when the majority of attacks occur anyway.

 

I'm wondering however, if I moved the Omada gear to a Linux based controller, with IDS/IPS on would it improve that speed?.....

 

Seems to me TPLink need to release an updated hardware controller.  I like my OC200 in terms of it's size, I would of perfered it not have USB power....... I know it takes POE but having just a standard power back for the rear power would have been better.

 

So a new hardware controller the size of the OC200 would be nice.......  plenty of new chips out there to power the thing.  

 

I am not a fan of software controllers because if the server/vm's go down.... ya stranded and don't want a cloud controller because it costs money so.

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-04 17:17:14 - last edited 2024-02-04 17:17:42

  @MrHC1983 When I switched to a software controller and more importantly upgraded the router to the er8411 I haven't seen any significant decrease in throughput and expect that it could handle a multi-gig WAN setup with IDS/IPS enabled - I don't think the controller is the bottleneck in your case, probably the router. I'm completely with you on the need for a higher performing controller - I simply do not understand how these new features can be released without a corresdonding hardware controller that could support it - this problem cost me money as DPI was a required feature I needed to block torrents to prevent tenants from downloading illegal movies and I had the OC300 which doesn't support DPI either. They need to release some kind of "enterprise" or "pro" version that can - an "OC500 Enterprise" or some such thing IMO. The really annoying part is I don't see anywhere in the sales material that states the OC hardware models will not support the DPI feature unless this has finally been updated. It's a bit misleading.

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-04 17:21:24

  @OrangeStreet 

 

OC400 is here. perhaps a bit much OC for a small home network.. smiley

 

https://www.tp-link.com/en/business-networking/omada-controller-hardware/oc400/

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-04 17:36:16 - last edited 2024-02-04 18:23:01

  @MrHC1983 

Why not go with a mini-PC with a newer gen Intel or AMD processor coupled with lots of memory and run it as an Omada software controller? Mini-PC's use very little power and the sky is the limit as far as processing power. Mini-PC's can be run 24x7, most use under 30-40W of power. Should never go down (unless you have a power outage). Either that, or use the Cloud option (understand that it's not free, but you get what you pay for). I run a Windows 11 Intel NUC mini-PC w/32GB of RAM and an Intel N5105 quad-core CPU...I wouldn't recommend it as a gaming PC but for running the Omada software controller it's WAY more than enough. I took a snapshot of what I'm running...CPU utilization is generally below 20% (that's with 75 clients on my network) and I rarely see the memory utilization go above 2GB for the Omada process itself. Only time this mini-PC has ever gone down is for reboots after Windows patches. Not a big deal. Otherwise it's up all the time and is super reliable. You can find N5105 mini-PC's online for as low as $100 w/16GB of RAM and Win 11 Pro preinstalled. 

 

 

The controllers don't really affect throughput or network performance, but I remember the hardware controllers are limited in terms of number of clients they can accommodate. The OC200 is designed for portability and to accommodate common small home networks. I'd 100% recommend going with the software or cloud-based controller for larger-scale home or small biz networks. 

Hybrid OPNsense/Omada EAP Cat6 backhaul 4 x EAP670 1 x EAP610-Outdoor Omada Controller v5.15.6.4 Win 11x64 Router: OPNsense Intel N5105 quad-core I226V 2.5Gbe w/16GB RAM Dual WAN Fios/Spectrum 1Gbps
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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-04 17:49:59 - last edited 2024-02-04 17:50:27

  @MR.S it's still "coming soon" at least in my region (US) - however this looks like a much better option for a network like mine. There is still no documentation that says it will work with DPI so I'd be real sure to ask that BEFORE you buy it or you'll get stuck doing what I had to do (buy a PC for a dedicated software controller). I would hope a device with the specs it shows would be plenty! Thanks for the link!

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-04 17:55:28 - last edited 2024-02-04 17:56:20

  @MrHC1983 

 

Buy a raspberry pi5, I bought one now that I run unifi controller and wireguard server on, it's super fast.

about the same size as the OC200


I run Omada on a Windows PC that runs some other services and is on 24/7 anyway..

 

 

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Re:Omada SDN Controller_V5.13.30.4 Pre-release (Updated on Jan 9th, 2024)
2024-02-04 18:00:21

  @OrangeStreet 

 

yes, and the OC400 is a waste of money for a small home network. but as I suggested, buy a raspberry pi5 4GB then you have a super fast controller that can also install other things on

 

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