Two routers??

Two routers??

Two routers??
Two routers??
2025-06-24 11:39:41 - last edited 2025-06-25 12:13:39
Model: Archer AX11000  
Hardware Version: V1
Firmware Version: 1.0

Hello,

 

When I bought this router two years ago, I didn't know it doesn't contain a modem part in it. So, I contact my ISP who furnished me one... The problem is that this piece is not only a modem, but it also contains a router.  I also have, on my network, a Synology NAS I used, to this day, for backup and so. Recently, I decide to (try to!) mount a Mail server on this NAS, and that's when I detect the problem: ports forwarding between the NAS and the AX11000 is refused, because the NAS detect the presence of two routers: the AX 11000 and the router contained in the modem-router box furnished by my ISP. I've already tried all what it is possible to do to desactivate the router in the ISP box, all failed. So, I think to disconnect this box definitively, to replace it with a pure modem only. My obvious question is: does tp-lin furnish pure DSL modems, without router, which can be linked with my AX 11000, and, if yes, which one? If no, how works everybody having only a pure tp-link router, without modem, in a DSL environment?

 

I thank you by advance for your answers.

 

Have a fine day,

 

Didier Eggerickx

Belgium

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2025-06-25 12:00:51 - last edited 2025-06-25 12:13:39

  @GiantHogweed 

 

When AX11000 is configured in AP mode you can connect your NAS by an ethernet cable to one of its 4 LAN ports, i.e. AP serves both wired/wireless devices.

It's your choce how to proceed - either wait for your ISP answer or you can close the thread before that.

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GiantHogweed wrote

 

             This address was already in the AX-11000 interface, I've modified nothing.

 

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Ok, thanks.

 

That explains why it initially didn't work after you activated the "Bridged LAN Host" in MyProximus.

 

The setting "Use Custom MAC Address = B0-A7-B9-3D-17-79" overrides the router's WAN MAC Address that is displayed on the main screen of your AX11000.

 

Basically, even though the AX11000 shows "WAN MAC Address: B0-A7-B9-3D-17-7A" on its "Internet Status" screen, its actual WAN MAC Address is now "B0-A7-B9-3D-17-79".

 

I guess that "Use Custom MAC Address = B0-A7-B9-3D-17-79" must have been a leftover from a few months ago, when you tried to make it work with that b-box 3V+, because the default setting on a brand-new TP-Link router is "Use Default MAC Address".

 

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-24 13:17:14

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Hi,

 

TP-Link doesn't sell any pure DSL modems.

 

On many (I would even say most) DSL routers it is actually possible to switch the device into a modem-only mode (often called "Bridge" mode) that bypasses all the router functions.
If the particular model that your ISP gave you doesn't allow this, then you might want to replace it with something else. But you need to make sure the new device's DSL specs match your DSL connection.
 

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-24 13:39:55

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Hi,

 

Yes, I knew that, and it is alreday done, but, without any change.

 

But, how do the owners of an AX 11000 work?

 

Which modem do they use, hoping some still work with DSL?

 

I've already think to contact my ISP, but, it's generally a true misery... If they did'nt found anything they already know, the origin of your problem is systematically elsewhere...

 

Thanks

 

Didier

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-24 15:51:11

GiantHogweed wrote

  @GiantHogweed 

 

 

But, how do the owners of an AX 11000 work?

 

Which modem do they use, hoping some still work with DSL?

 

  @GiantHogweed 

 

I think in general ISP's have stopped giving users pure DSL modems a long time ago, like more than 15 years or so. Since then ISPs have usually provided combined DSL routers.

 

As I said, in many cases the DSL routers do have a modem-only ("Bridge") mode. So, in such case an AX11000 user would switch the ISP's DSL router into that mode, connect the WAN port of the the AX11000 to the LAN1 port of the DSL router and then configure the PPPoE connection on the AX11000 to connect to the Internet.

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-24 16:12:52 - last edited 2025-06-24 17:45:54

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Here's a guide on how to bridge a DSL modem router and use a wireless router connected behind, thus avoiding double NAT in your LAN.

In fact, other brads DSL modem routers have so called bridge mode or "modem only" mode, which does the same.

Your best bet is to contact your ISP and ask them if their DSL modem router can be configured in this mode.

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-24 17:12:53

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Thank you for all! Concerning the guide, it will be very useful when the two routers are tp-link ones... But, in my case, my ISP modem-router is a more than basic one, with only several basic options. For exemaple, I found that the network connection is a PPP one, but no useful parameters to find... I think the only (poor) solution I have is to go in one of my ISP shops, with my 2025-up-to-date router and see what is possible to do (Proximus, years ago, Belgacom...). Seeing other forums and interventions, I notice that same problems occur with fiber connections... If I'm still alive!!

 

Didier

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-24 21:13:41

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Would you mind telling us the name of your current ISP? You never know, perhaps someone here in this forum can provide some information about how to use a third-party router with that ISP.
 

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-25 05:57:37

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Hello,

 

My ISP is Proximus, and the exact model of the modem-router is: Proximus b-box 3V+ .

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-25 07:47:16

  @GiantHogweed 

 

You may try the following:

To configure a Proximus B-Box 3v+ in bridge mode, you need to disable the PPP (PPPoE) connection on the modem's interface and then connect your own router to the B-Box. This allows your router to handle the internet connection and potentially gain a public IP address. The B-Box essentially becomes a modem, forwarding traffic to your router. 

Here's a more detailed breakdown:

  1. Access the B-Box 3v+ interface: Open a web browser and go to http://192.168.1.1. 
  2. Log in: Use the default username and password found on the label of your modem. 
  3. Navigate to Network Connectivity: Go to the Network Connectivity section, then to Internet. 
  4. Disable PPP: Find the PPP enable/disable slider and set it to Disable/OFF. 
  5. Click OK: Confirm the changes. 
  6. Connect your router: Connect your router to the B-Box using an Ethernet cable. Typically, you'll connect to a LAN port on the B-Box and the WAN port on your router. 
  7. Configure your router: Configure your router to establish the PPPoE connection. This usually involves entering your Proximus username and password, which can be found on your Proximus account or by contacting their support. 
  8. Verify the setup: You can check your router's status page or run an ipconfig command in PowerShell (Windows) to see if it has a public IP address. 

By putting the B-Box in bridge mode, you essentially delegate the routing and firewall functionality to your own router, potentially giving you more control over your network configuration and potentially obtaining a public IP address. 

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-25 08:17:20

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Hello,

It's no slide or no other way to disable the PPP in Network Connectivity...

 

Didier

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Re:Two routers??
2025-06-25 08:58:20

  @GiantHogweed 

 

Based on screenshots in edpnet your DSL modem WebGUI should look like this:

 

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