MR600 v1/v2/v3/v5 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ

MR600 v1/v2/v3/v5 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-13 03:00:32

  @vk3hjq I used 698-4900Mhz @ 15dbi x2 what could possibly the spacing in cm?

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-13 03:37:10 - last edited 2024-07-13 03:41:19

  @Vintage-MR600 

 

 

@ 700MHz (698) which is the lowest Frequency used, then its 856.5mm (85.6cm) between the 2 antennas.

spacing

 

John vk3hjq smiley

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-13 03:48:21

  @vk3hjq Thanks mate! I also use 10meters cable. is not a problem or should I go 5meters? but ofcourse the height of installation will decrease.

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-14 04:07:18

  @Vintage-MR600 

 

Usually more height means more signal.

Do a temporary setup outside & see what signal strength you get. 

 

John vk3hjq smiley  

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-14 07:46:14

  @vk3hjq sad, I already order 5mt LMR400 cable. I follow "Keep the cable as short as possible". hopefully will work.I will post an updat mate thank you so much!

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-14 09:27:51 - last edited 2024-07-14 11:06:44

  @Vintage-MR600 

 

Shorter is always better at these high Frequencies.

 

Remember 3dB is 1/2 your signal loss in both Transmit & Receive.

 

Examples below using LMR400 coax over 5mts (16.4042 feet) & 10mts (32.8084 feet), as you can see the higher the Frequency used the more cable loss.

 

Common Frequencies used in Australia

 

LMR400 Coax Loss:

@ 700 MHz 5mt 0.7dB Loss 87.8% Efficiency

@ 700 MHz 10mt 1.3dB Loss 77% "

 

@ 1800 MHz 5mt 1.1dB Loss 80.6% "

@ 1800 MHz 10mt 2.1dB Loss 64.9% "

 

@ 2100 MHz 5mt 1.2dB Loss 79.1% "

@ 2100 MHz 10mt 2.3dB Loss 62.5% "

 

@ 2600 MHz 5mt 1.4dB Loss 76.8% "

@ 2600 MHz 10mt 2.6dB Loss 59% "

 

@ 3500 MHz 5mt 1.6dB Loss 73.3% "

@ 3500 MHz 10mt 3.1dB Loss 53.7% " (1/2 is Loss in TX/RX)

 

Cable loss

 

John vk3hjqsmiley

 

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-14 21:42:19

  @vk3hjq meaning if I have 15dbi I will only get 12.4dbi using 10mt coax for 700mhz?

Example I'm optimizing for 700Mhz, since the loss of 10mt cable for 700Mhz is 1.3dB x 2 = 2.6dB loss? so I will only get 12.4dBi from 15dBi Antenna is this correct?

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-15 07:05:57 - last edited 2024-07-16 15:01:58

  @Vintage-MR600 

 

Do you have a spec sheet on these antennas.

It depends what the gain figure (dBi) is at 700MHz too, it may not be 15dBi.

 

dbd dbi

 

So 15dBi to dBd - 2.15 = 12.85 dBd (dB)

 

12.85 - (2 x 1.3dB cable loss) = 10.25

 

10.25 - (2 x 0.5dB adaptor loss approx.) = 9.25dB, then add 3db extra for 2 antennas = 12.25dB in Theory.

 

This does not take into account all the other connectors loss + the small runs of RG58 coax used on the antennas either.

 

John vk3hjq smiley

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-15 09:55:20 - last edited 2024-07-15 09:56:12

  @vk3hjq here is the information of the antenna. 

440x220x65 mm - this is only available LPDA in our country that support 698-2700Mhz just like in your post, i tried finding 515mm but they only support 850Mhz for the lowest freq. 

its not complete details but I guess this will work just like in your tutorial post. and I bought 2pcs so its 16 dBi x 2?

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Re: MR600 v1/v2/v3 4G/+ External Antenna Information (LPDA MIMO) Australia - John VK3HJQ
2024-07-16 13:31:55

  @Vintage-MR600 

 

These seem good, do you have a picture of them.

 

John vk3hjq smiley

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