Deco M4 wifi clients with wifi connected and "no internet"
I Have a pack of 2 of deco M4R units, wifi was setup, apparently no issues. The network topology is
WAN - ISP router (bridge port) - deco M4 (1Gbps+ cables all over, all ports are 1Gb).
I have exactly the same setup I had with a tp-link wr1043nd v3, that I have now replaced by the pack of 2 deco M4R.
Just bought 3 new nokia 2.2 (android one 9.0), and already on their setup+updates I noticed that they would drop the connection in the middle and I had to disable/enable the network to keep going with the setup!
Now, to definetely troubleshoot this I reset the decos, created a new fresh network with only one deco (left the other unconfigured and powered off), changed the dns of the WAN to 8.8.8.8 + 8.8.4.4, and disabled fast roaming. Nothing else. My tests are being done within 3 meters of the deco and the ISP router.
I also reset 1 of the nokia 2.2, besides adding the google account, nothing else was changed.
I also enabled the wifi on the ISP router (that I keep off) just for testing and comparison.
I am using the android youtube app for tests, I choose a fullhd or 4k video of more than 20 mins and just play it and see if it goes through all of it.
On the ISP router (I selected my own channel 6 here): no issues, connection always fine, speed fine, video plays all.
On the deco (apparently selected channel 9): issues, deco shows white led all time, other devices seem fine, but these nokia 2.2 the wifi shows connected, apparently no issues, but anything net related does not work (sometimes it will show "connected/no internet"). A disconnect + connect works again for some minutes (around 5-7 mins).
I already tried everything on tplink foruns, even spoke to nokia support to see if they had any wifi compalints (had none), checked nokia 2.2 reviews (also no wifi issues). I also notice that on some samsung tablets, using wifi 2.4 the speed is bad (at 1m from the deco!), starts fine at 50+Mbps but drops fast, eventually the average is listed at 5Mbps? With the older wr1043nd, also 1m away, I had the max wifi speed (120Mbps!), and I also get max using the ISP router.
Testing a laptop PC or samsung tablet on 5.2GHz wifi on deco I also get the max speed.
I also noticed by peeking at the http://192.168.68.1 (default) that the CPU keeps going up to almost 100% for nothing, then returns to decent 4%, this keeps going in a loop, does not look normal... I do not see anything major on the logs, the deco shows nokia 2.2 connected, nokia 2.2 shows wifi connected, but there is no internet at all!
I also changed the nokia 2.2 to use a fixed IP instead of dhcp for the deco wifi, I stil have the same wifi conencted/no internet issue, tryed disable mesh for this device, still issues. Nothing seems to fix it. This would need a good debug on the deco unit ...
This is very annoying, and I need to keep doing disable/enable of the deco network to have stuff working. Connected to the ISP router wifi, no manual changes and no issues whatsoever.
I think there is something wrong with this firmware for the deco M4, that causes severe issues within the 2.4Ghz wifi, causing "some" client disconnections, and I cannot troubleshoot further, if this is not fixed, since the nokias work fine woth other non-deco wifi's, I will have to return the decos since 3 devices at home cannot use it?
Just reset both decos and swapped the roles (always keep only the main on) and the issue is still there, turn on wifi, start a youtube video, after 6:10 it shows buffering issues and I try to open any link, shows disconnected (but wifi shows on, and the deco also shows nokia 2.2 connected).
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Some new android's have option to set DNS over wifi network.
in some cases if you set "use private dns" you got internet connection but no traffic. Just disable private DNS.
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But So, support changed the channel to 6 and width to 20Mhz, (I changed the ISP to channel 1, always 20Mhz) and the issue is still there.
The issue is seen while doing pings from my laptop (on same wifi as the nokia 2.2) that suddently all start to fail. After some time the video complains lack of connectivity, and some time after, the wifi shows no internet. And while the pings are ongoing, after some time (without disable/enable or wifi on the nokia), they seem to start again. Strange enough, when I leave the nokia 2.2 to "sleep", the pings do not seem to fail.
But this time I did the exact same test and pings with a nokia 4.2 (also android one 9 pie but more powerfull/different hardware), and not only I did not have a single failed ping but the response times were way better.
And finally connected both laptop and nokia 2.2 to the ISP router and did the same test, and here while I do see once in while a failed ping, the next is always a good one, so there is no accumulation of failued pings, so the connectivity keeps ongoing and there is no failure.
I see that the deco is quite chatty, is it possible that the network timings are too agressive (there are some issues pointed out on the openwrt foruns related to this) and this causes slower CPU mobile phones to have more dificulty to keep up and thus tend to fail more (probably the dns requests the android does to check if the wifi has internet connectivity), thus causing them to think they have no internet connectivity?
I remember this one and I disabled it, but compariring the nokia 4.2 to 2.2, saw that the private DNS on the 4.2 is set to automatic (that apparently then shows up "activated").
So I changed the nokia 2.2 to automatic and did the video test and it seemed that the ping failures started a bit later, but eventually led to to the failure of the video play and complain of lack of connectivity.
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"I remember this one and I disabled it, but compariring the nokia 4.2 to 2.2, saw that the private DNS on the 4.2 is set to automatic (that apparently then shows up "activated")."
Change from automatic to Off. I got this problem end when turn off.
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@ivy Maybe it was a bit confused but this was disabled all the time on the nokia 2.2 off.
But since the nokia 4.2 (that has no wifi issues) had it automatic, I decided to also test the same on the nokia 2.2: made no difference.
In resume, the nokia 2.2 with disabled or automatic has wifi issues (and the nokia 4.2, automatic or disabled works fine).
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Thanks for your reply. You can inform our engineer these information also.
I found that you take some time to do the troubleshooting together, cause the current issue is a little weird, we may need spend much more time to figure it out.
Good day.
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The feedback I post here is after work done with support or tests done by me and support informed of those, so they know.
Last time I also mentioned that another portuguese (coincidence?) had the same issues and they asked for the forum threads, information I provided yesterday.
I am sure support has or will check both threads and take notice of the devices affected, now that it is confirmed that this happens with multiple devices.
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Yes, we have reported that similar case and try to do a comparison analysis together.
We are still collecting more details to do further analysis like I mentioned on that thread. Once we got what we need, then we will start the further troubleshooting.
Best regards.
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Just had a teamviewer session with somebody from tp-link R&D while doing the usual tests (and second deco turned off) AND the issue is no longer there, the videos played fine and we saw no ping failures at all. Nothing was changed BUT this weekend the nokia 2.2 received the android 9 [security] patch of october! So, it seems there was fix somehow on it that casued the issue to go away and, at least on all my devices now, I no longer have anuy wifi issues.
Kudos to tp-link again, great support, I am really happy, l enjoyed my wr1043nd's, I am sure I will enjoy my deco M4R as well, even more now that I know they run openwrt, my favorite router firmware :)
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I'm having very similar issues since replacing my WiFi with two Deco M4Rs in router mode. I'm seeing 2 Amazon Fire 7 tablets and various Echo's and Echo dots dropping off.
The Echos will eventually recover automatically, but the Fire 7 tablets need to have WiFi turned off and back on again.
The tablets show as connected, but I am no longer able to ping their IP addresses until WiFi is turned off and on again.
We have a Fire 8 HD which doesn't seem to lose internet at all, and the Fire TV sticks also seem OK.
The M4 are v1 units. I might try a complete reset of the M4s and if no improvement I'll send them back.
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Well, when I did last tests with tp-link support, we did not had any issue...
Today, to answer an email to nokia (to whom I also reported the issue), I decided to test again and found out that the issue is still there: I started playing a live concert on the youtube app (like last time) and after 6 minutes or so, got the "no network" message :(
Nothing changed in the setup/config but the decos rebooted and now seem to use channel 4, and the nokias 2.2 in the meantime received the november update (october seemed ok, november not, but the last test could just have been that very few devices where plugged in to the decos, no idea why I get the issue again).
And this is what I get from pinging it from the router:
--- 192.168.0.107 ping statistics ---
232 packets transmitted, 114 packets received, 50% packet loss <<< 50% lost !?
round-trip min/avg/max = 1.256/3332.161/22212.438 ms
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