ER703WP-4G-Outdoor (US) Configuration NIGHTMARE!

ER703WP-4G-Outdoor (US) Configuration NIGHTMARE!

ER703WP-4G-Outdoor (US) Configuration NIGHTMARE!
ER703WP-4G-Outdoor (US) Configuration NIGHTMARE!
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Model: ER703WP-4G-Outdoor  
Hardware Version: V1
Firmware Version: 1.1.5

I recently bought the new US version of the ER703WP-4G-Outdoor to use as an automated cellular backup link for my main network, while simultaneously utilizing its wireless radios as a standard outdoor Access Point.

To put it mildly: deploying this unit into an existing, sophisticated multi-VLAN enterprise fabric is a complete nightmare due to rigid constraints in the Omada SDN Controller software (v6.2.x).

Because the controller prohibits having two gateways in a single site, I had to resort to the workaround of duplicating my main site profile over to a secondary "Backyard" site just to adopt the hardware.

Once inside the standalone interface, I disabled the default DHCP server, assigned a static IP out of my Management subnet (VLAN 254), kept it untagged, and successfully completed the adoption handshake. However, I have hit two massive software limitations that completely break standard networking logic:

 

  1. The "Default" LAN Network Refuses to Tag 802.1Q Management Traffic In the SDN controller for the secondary site, I changed the "Default" network's VLAN ID from 1 to 254. In any standard enterprise ecosystem, modifying a management VLAN implies transitioning that traffic to an 802.1Q tagged state. However, the ER703WP continues to blast its primary management traffic untagged on the physical wire, merely shifting its internal native PVID.
  2. The moment I flip my upstream switch port (SX3206HPP) to a standard production profile—where the Native PVID is set to a non-routing black hole (VLAN 4000) and VLAN 254 is explicitly Tagged—the gateway instantly drops offline. The gateway firmware apparently lacks the capability to tag its own primary management interface.
  3. "VLAN-Only" Networks Completely Hide Gateway Ports To get my existing wireless SSIDs to pass traffic cleanly back to my core L3 switch fabric (a Celestica running SONiC), those networks are provisioned in the controller as "VLAN-Only."


My Topology & Core Question:

  • Primary Path: Wireless Client -> ER703WP (SSID Tagged) -> SX3206HPP -> Celestica DX010 (Core L3 SVI) -> ER8411 SFP+ WAN1

  • Backup WAN Path: ER703WP (Cellular Engine) -> SX3206HPP (Trunk) -> Celestica (Trunk)-> Brocade VDX6740 (Trunk) -> ER8411 WAN/LAN8 (VLAN 99)

 

My management plane is VLAN 254. My cellular backup handoff needs to ride down to my main router on an isolated, point-to-point VLAN 99.

How does TP-Link expect engineers to cleanly isolate cellular WAN packets from local LAN/Wireless traffic on this hardware when the controller prevents us from building a standard 802.1Q trunk on the gateway faceplate?

This unit drastically needs a dedicated software toggle for "AP Mode with Cellular IP Passthrough." This would disable the rogue internal L3 routing engine on the LAN side, allow the management plane to tag itself properly like a standard EAP series Access Point, and deliver the raw cellular connection down a dedicated, user-defined tagged VLAN interface.

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Re:ER703WP-4G-Outdoor (US) Configuration NIGHTMARE!
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  @mbze430 

 

you are trying to use a product for something it is not designed for. i don't know if you bought this router to have backup wan or if you bought it to have wifi outside and at the same time have backup wan.

anyway it is a router, it is only possible with one router per site, yes that is the case with unifi too, so if you need to use it as a backup wan connect it to a wan port on the ER8411 and set up failover. then you buy yourself an access point to use outside.

 

 

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Re:ER703WP-4G-Outdoor (US) Configuration NIGHTMARE!
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  @MR.S 

 

MR.S wrote

  @mbze430 

 

you are trying to use a product for something it is not designed for. i don't know if you bought this router to have backup wan or if you bought it to have wifi outside and at the same time have backup wan.

anyway it is a router, it is only possible with one router per site, yes that is the case with unifi too, so if you need to use it as a backup wan connect it to a wan port on the ER8411 and set up failover. then you buy yourself an access point to use outside.

 

 

Think about what you just wrote. If this unit wasn't intended to act as a backup/primary WAN with the secondary purpose of providing Wi-Fi to extend coverage, why would they put both of them together in a single chassis? They would have just made a standalone cellular router and be done with it.

Suggesting I buy a standalone AP and run a second physical drop to the exact same outdoor location completely ignores basic enterprise design. Why would I pull two cables and waste edge switch ports when a single solid-copper trunk line can handle management, a cell-transit link, and multiple user data planes simultaneously using 802.1Q tagging? We don't solve software limitations by throwing unnecessary copper and hardware at a patio. Imagine your thoughts applied to the real world—our streets would be littered with cables.

 

If you strip away all the GUI, basic networking still applies. The problem isn't the hardware capability; it's a software wall that TP-Link built that is hindering it. For example, after multiple attempts at moving the management interface off the default VLAN, it seems the system daemons will always rigidly bind to whatever IP the "Default" VLAN is holding. As a Cisco Network Administrator, the first thing we do is disable VLAN 1 and create a black hole; normally, we isolate the management plane into a dedicated mgmt-VRF.

 

Anyway, after realizing the quirk that requires checking the "Gateway" hardware target box, I was able to get all the SSIDs to work with the rest of the network. The interface completely fails to explain that this checkbox defines the hardware scope for the profile. In an enterprise environment, a "Gateway" is a Layer 3 routable boundary, so my initial thought was that the option was meant for some form of wireless point-to-point routing.

 

Furthermore, the kernel needs to instantiate a Virtual Ethernet (VE) interface for each SSID to actually bridge the Layer 2 traffic out the wire, but nowhere in the wireless menu is that configuration step exposed. Thankfully, the companion wired profile workaround forces the controller to do it anyway.

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Re:ER703WP-4G-Outdoor (US) Configuration NIGHTMARE!
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TPLink Mod or Engineers

I have a huge security concern right now, and VERY hesitant to put it in the field.

 

Because I can only get the "adopting" mechanism to work in the Default Vlan (untagged).  That means anyone can get to the cable plug in their device and hack away at the switch and the entire vlan.  Even if the switch has mac filtering or 802.1X enabled wouldn't work, because literally the MAC address is on the outdoor unit.  If I deface the label, will you guys still warranty it?

 

You must tell me a way to transfer the adopting/management plane over to vlan I can tag; which you do have in your switch and EAP products but not your router/gateway products.  And untagged traffic into a blackhole.  At least there is some resistance.  This is WAY too open.

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