Why the switch to online only?

Why the switch to online only?

Why the switch to online only?
Why the switch to online only?
2025-04-19 23:14:40
Model: HS200  
Hardware Version: V5
Firmware Version: 5.26

Hello,

 

In the past years, I've changed all switch, dimmer and outlet in my home for Kasa/Tapo device (mostly kasa). I also installed tapo camera. I love the ecosystem, it work great and it's locally control.

 

But about around last year, a switch was done. A new switch appear which can control a fan and a light dimmer (finaly!). But this switch cannot be controled locally like the other light. In fact, it require authentification to Tapo Cloud to then be able to control it. If you block internet for that switch, the switch stop working from locally control device like OpenHab or HomeAssistant.

 

And then, this started happening to other older device. I just bought today a new HS200 for the last remaining dummy switch I had. I have Hardware version is 5.26. I already have some 5.0 installed that work great. But the new 5.26? Must use the tapo cloud login now. Why??? You were a favorite among the home automation ecosystem having created so much device that were reliable and worked offline. Now, this is going away and nobody understand why. I nearly regret now that I have over 100 kasa device because I don't want my iot device to be cloud connected, that's why I have my own home automation server.

 

I do see other stuff were added to that HS200 that my other doesn't have. And this is also something I don't understand. Most of these stuff can be added with a firmware update, so why it isn't standardize? For instance, my old HS200 v 5.0 firmware 1.0.11. When I go into esetting, I have LED Status and that's it. My new one on 5.26 firmware 1.0.3? I have default state, auto-off timer, delated shut off and led control. There's even a new group feature. I really don't understand why all of these aren't ported to older generation since it's 100% software bound and doesn't need tapo cloud to set (at least beside the group feature).

 

Please, send a firmware update that restore local only fonctionnality without authentication for all kasa device. I can understand for security camera, but for light switch, outlet and such, please allow us to continue to control them offline like we were always used to be able to.

 

THank you

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Re:Why the switch to online only?
2025-04-22 15:14:24
I guess this post will end up burried since TP-Link don't care about this. It's too bad cause in the money for quality range, it used to be the defacto buy. Nice looking device, working properly most of the time and doesn't cost a lot. But the cloud requirement that remove local control is a very bad thing. I can't believe my on/off call need to go over the internet to turn on/off my light when it could be done directly between my home automation and the switch directly.
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Re:Why the switch to online only?
2025-04-27 09:35:03

  @Nodiaque 

 

The relevant update aims to enhance product security. TP-Link Kasa API has never been publicly disclosed, managing Kasa devices through open-source platforms is not an officially supported method. It might carry certain security risks and vulnerabilities, and there is no guarantee to product performance. 

 

We do not recommend managing or controlling devices through unofficial methods. If you need local management of the devices, it can be achieved through the Kasa app.

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Re:Why the switch to online only?
2025-04-28 15:22:53

  @Wayne-TP There is some mistake in your answer.

 

Once I cut internet to my switch, neither Kasa app or Tapo app work with it. The switch blink red saying no internet and it stop responding on lan only network. Funny thing, I currently have some device that are showed offline in both kasa and tapo, meaning I cannot control them by those apps, but no problem with my openhab server that control them locally (which is like home assistant, a product that is mentionned under tapo labs => third party compatibility). Except for that online only switch that can only be talk through the cloud.

 

Risks and vulnerabilities to use an official API is really not a good argument. If your own apps is using the same api, the only vulnerabilities are the one exposed on the device. Now if you are talking about vulnerability in my openhab installation vs kasa/tapo apps themself, that's another story that you shouldn't be concern. Main reason is those people using either HA or OH for local control are normally way more tech savy then your average user. Discussion abour risks and vulnerabilities at that stage are something that shouldn't concern you since it's not your own software. But making the API available on local control without cloud authentication is something Kasa was praised for.

 

Honestly, you guys should open the API instead of closing it. The more open an API is, the best support you get from the community altogether. Even you're firmware could benefit from an open platform.

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Re:Why the switch to online only?
2025-06-04 03:19:03

  @Wayne-TP If you think that enhancing security means removing all controls from the end user and placing it solely into the API of ANY company, you are incorrect. Especially when that API is located on a separate continent from the one the device being controlled originated from. I wish companies would stop with the "in the name of security" camouflaged motive statements.

 

The problem with your statement is that your sentence has the exact opposite meaning of security and everyone is taking notice.

 

Google "tp-link-china-routers-congress-commerce-ban-letter"

 

But whats most aggravating when someone spouts this line. Is that the open source community (WHERE YOU STILL USE LINES OF CODE FROM TO THIS DAY) becomes the punching bag of concealment within your sentence.

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Re:Why the switch to online only?
2025-06-05 00:35:09

  @Wayne-TP The kasa app used to be able to control without internet all switchs and plug. Why it cannot anymore? All new switch using the new TP Authentication require internet access. Which mean no more iot lan without internet access for added security (way higher security then any firmware you could push). Why?

 

Also by the way, in the Tapo Apps, you have a switch "Enable Third Party Management" where you explicitly state Home Assistant as an exemple. So why you don't support it, you still have feature so it can connect to it. Although I didn't see any difference with the feature enable or disable.

 

Honestly, I'm looking right now to replace over 20 more switch and outlets, and adding many security camera. I'm rethinking my brand loyalty to TP-Link with that switch to online only that doesn't benefit the user

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Re:Why the switch to online only?
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I guess we will never get an answer to that. Switch to online only and that's it.
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