Automations cannot be disabled or edited when the hub is offline

Automations cannot be disabled or edited when the hub is offline

Automations cannot be disabled or edited when the hub is offline
Automations cannot be disabled or edited when the hub is offline
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Model: Tapo H110  
Hardware Version: V1
Firmware Version: 1.4.4 Build 251031 Rel.111523

Model: H110 Smart IR & IoT Hub

Firmware: 1.4.4 Build 251031 Rel.111523

App Version (Android): 3.17.109

App Version (iOS): 3.17.105

Platforms tested: iPadOS, Android, Bluestacks

Networks tested: multiple routers and Wi‑Fi environments

 

Summary

When the H110 hub is offline or disconnected, the Tapo app does not allow disabling, editing, or deleting automations.

The automation UI becomes locked until the hub reconnects to the cloud.

 

Steps to Reproduce

  1. Create any automation involving the H110 (e.g., IR schedule).
  2. Disconnect the hub from power or disconnect the internet.
  3. Open the Tapo app → Automation tab.
  4. Attempt to disable, edit, or delete the automation.

 

Observed Behaviour

  • Automations cannot be disabled.
  • Automations cannot be edited.
  • Automations cannot be deleted.
  • The app displays no clear explanation for the restriction.
  • The UI remains locked until the hub reconnects to the cloud.

 

Expected Behaviour

  • Users should be able to disable or modify automations regardless of hub connectivity.
  • Automation management should not depend on cloud acknowledgement.
  • Safety‑critical automations (heating/cooling) should always be controllable.
  • This expectation is based on the product documentation, which states that the hub remains controllable on the local network even when the external internet is unavailable.

 

Impact

  • Faulty or unwanted automations cannot be stopped during outages.
  • Heating or cooling schedules cannot be disabled if the hub is offline.
  • Users lose control over automation behaviour until cloud connectivity returns.
  • This creates a safety concern for climate‑control use cases.

 

Request

Could the engineering team please confirm whether automation management is intentionally cloud‑dependent?

If not, is local automation control planned for future updates?

 

Thank you for your attention,

 

Best Regards,

 

John

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Re:Automations cannot be disabled or edited when the hub is offline
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  @el_nene 

 

An invalid automation can be deleted -- tap to edit the automation, swipe down, then click Delete.

 

An automation rule will not run if it contains an invalid status condition, such as the target device being offline or the required feature being disabled. After invalid conditions are removed and replaced with valid ones, the automation can be saved again. A functional automation can be disabled or enabled as needed.

 

As I’ve explained in your previous posts, Tapo automations are primarily a cloud-based feature and require an internet connection to run. To support scenarios where internet connectivity is unavailable or undesired, we introduced a new feature -- "Tapo Local Smart". When configured with supported devices and skills, automation rules can run fully offline, controlled directly by your Tapo Hub without relying on the cloud. What is Local Smart Action?

 

Tapo H110 supports local smart, but the infrared devices do not. This means any automation involving an IR device remains cloud-dependent and will not function during a network interruption. Meanwhile, if you create an automation that meets Local Smart requirements—for instance, using a hub-connected motion sensor to control a smart plug—it will run locally and be controlled by the hub itself.

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