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Option to hide IoT Network

 
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Option to hide IoT Network

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Re:Option to hide IoT Network
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  @chrishup 

 

Except it's not a opinion, It's literally fact, Which I backed up, and you can also verify yourself if you choose, if you feel otherwise please explain how it adds security to hide the SSID, with facts not opinions or feelings.

 

You might as well say that a Wi-Fi network with a hidden SSID and no password is secure... That's not how it works..

 

Most of you that feel that way and believe that because you don't understand how it actually works, people have misunderstood hidden SSIDs ever since the very first devices came out with it, which actually originally violated standards, in the first place. You don't understand that, just because you don't see it in a Wi-Fi picker on a device, doesn't mean that the SSID is not being shouted constantly all around you, and again shouted by your device everywhere you go in the world making you easier to track if you connect your mobile device to one.

 

Which is why I explained how it actually works.

 

And then you have others here who are suggesting things like temporarily showing me SSID to allow a device to connect, but they again don't understand how things work because they don't understand that when the SSID hides again that same device still will not be able to find it, because the device was not told essentially during the connection process that it's a hidden SSID or will be. 

 

Again, it's literally a fact that hiding an SSID provides zero security, absolutely zero, the fact that the SSID is completely visible to anybody with the tools that would be needed to crack the WPA2 or greater security, literally has those tools already, And again out on the fact that your client devices must actually broadcast that SSID themselves, even if they're nowhere near the access point and can be anywhere in the world, literally makes you easier to track. Now again I did note that of course it doesn't matter for iot devices for that particular security concern, but again it literally and factually does not provide security. And if you're not using WPA2 or higher, then why are you even worrying about "security".

 

The security of your iot network is provided by the WPA2 or higher password, Again facts not feelings or opinion. No matter what you claim.

 

Again, you can hide the SSID for whatever reason you want, but if you say the reason a security, you literally have no idea what you're talking about, And are nothing but a clown.

 

If you're going to argue for the feature, at least use facts, not feelings, you might actually get somewhere.

 

Fact you want to hide the SSID to clean up the Wi-Fi picker of various devices, totally fine. Makes logical sense, totally a valid reason. I don't have a problem with that, that's a valid reason.

 

If you want to hide the SSID to provide security, factually you're not doing that whatsoever, And makes your argument for the feature just that much more ridiculous and less likely to get anywhere.

 

 

TLDR:

 

Try making your argument with facts not feelings, and maybe you'll actually get somewhere.... Or just don't buy and use tp-link products problem solved, since they apparently do not meet your "security needs."

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Re:Option to hide IoT Network
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Agreed, it does in fact make it less secure. However, the fact we can hide every single other band/network except the IoT network quite simply makes no sense.
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  @Slowi don't disagree entirely, It's possible from a technical perspective surely.

 

Unless they were thinking about it from a support perspective, IOT devices more then "normal devices" do not support hidden SSID, But the fact that they're adding it to newer devices probably means they changed their mind.

 

At the same time, they're probably just not worried about adding any feature especially ones they consider to be a low priority item to have to test and all that other stuff.

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Re:Option to hide IoT Network
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Can't we just close this thread? We're talking in circles and TPLink isn't joining the conversations so we're just waisting time... It's a shame that TPlink keeps ignoring this. If so many people want to have the ability to hide their IOT wifi, just make it an option... just like they did in the Omada line... I don't care if it's more or less safe, I just want to be able to hide it because:

 

- it keeps the 'ether' more clean 😃

- It doesn't make my neighbors or visitors curious because when you're broadcasting an iot network people like to know why you're doing that...

 

Just give us the f#cking option so we all can go on with our lives...

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I’ll add my voice here as someone who works in network security.

There’s no technical or regulatory reason this feature shouldn’t exist. IEEE 802.11 standards have long supported the “SSID suppression” bit in beacon frames, it’s not a hack or a violation of protocol. In fact, enterprise systems like Cisco, Aruba, and even TP-Link’s own Omada line fully implement hidden SSIDs, often for environment hygiene, RF management, and user experience reasons.

Yes, hiding an SSID isn’t real security, WPA2/WPA3 (IEEE 802.11i) provides that. But as an administrator, I should still have the choice to reduce clutter, avoid guest confusion, and keep my IoT segmentation discreet. A simple toggle with a disclaimer would satisfy both camps.

When long-standing requests like this go unanswered while competitors (Unifi, Asus, Netgear) deliver, it sends a message that feedback loops aren’t valued. Most of us here aren’t asking for a redesign, just parity with what’s already industry standard. That’s the kind of detail that keeps customers loyal.

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