Deco BE63 & Verizon FIOS setup with home wiring for backhaul

Deco BE63 & Verizon FIOS setup with home wiring for backhaul

Deco BE63 & Verizon FIOS setup with home wiring for backhaul
Deco BE63 & Verizon FIOS setup with home wiring for backhaul
2025-08-14 18:29:03 - last edited 2025-08-15 13:37:37
Model: Deco BE63  
Hardware Version:
Firmware Version: 1.1.7

So I recently purchased a pair of Deco BE63 routers from Amazon. Main reason was to use the home wiring Ethernet as backhaul as my previous Eero's started to fail miserably due to some combination of software updates and maybe neighbors getting more aggressive with their own WiFi signal (live in townhouse, can usually see at least 12 other SSIDs if not more at any given time).

 

General setup is: main unit is in my office upstairs SW corner of three story townhouse, plugged into Ethernet jack that goes directly to Verizon FIOS router (G3100). Second unit is first floor, NW corner, with a problematic wall with lots of AC ductwork in between (which is what was breaking the Eeros, because I have another requirement to not have any visible wires from my wife), by another Ethernet jack also ending up on the FIOS router.

 

The wired backhaul failed, probably because of the FIOS router not allowing the port-to-port broadcast to work. I briefly tried to put a TPLink 5 port smart switch in between them by the FIOS router (which is in a metal box in the garage, builder's choice) but that broke a whole lot of stuff, not sure why. Ultimately I want to use that for port mirroring to another raspberry Pi5 running network monitoring software but that's a future plan. The second unit Ethernet jack and cable has been confirmed to work just fine (using a USB-C to Ethernet adapter on my iPhone; it gets an IP from the FIOS router and accesses the internet etc.).

 

Wired network is range A (call it 192.168.1.0/24), wireless network is range B (call it 192.168.80.0/26), which should be fine. The primary Deco has its dynamic WAN IP in range A. They do share the same physical Ethernet wiring (in that I have some Ethernet and wifi devices on the range A wired network and wireless range B network, and of course at least the primary Deco has that WAN IP and the LAN IP it being a router).

 

I'm still having a lot of problems with stability, mainly on devices that support WiFi6+ (my iPhone 15 Pro and iPad Pro M2 being the ones I use most and notice it the most). In fact, I had to turn off WiFi to get the reCAPTCHA to work.

 

But my main question is about whether the WiFi Router mode really doesn't like being behind a FIOS router, and if Access Point should be used instead. I'm struggling to understand why it would care how many devices it goes through to get to the services on the internet as long as routing is there, but clearly something else is going on. I'll probably try Access Point mode this weekend when it's not as critical to have a working network for a while, but am wondering if anyone has WiFi Router working in this scenario.

 

Thanks.

 

Michael

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2025-08-14 22:27:34 - last edited 2025-08-15 13:37:37

  @MMatthews,

You are exactly correct in your question about AP mode and Router Mode. With two routers on the network, you basically have two brains trying to control the entire network.

 

The easiest place to see this is in device addressing, as the two devices maintain their own 'YellowPages' of IP Addresses, and they don't match. When connected to a network, your device addresses should only ever come from one single source.

 

If you are wiring all of your Decos to the FiOS gateway, you will need to be using AP Mode - otherwise, the Deco Router and FiOS router will just fight each other nonstop and cause conflicts. In AP Mode the Decos will operate as an extension of the network created by your FiOS router. Your setup is very close, but using the Decos in Router Mode, under another router, will almost definitely cause the behaviors you are describing.

 

If you are looking to use the Decos in Router Mode, there will need to be only one device from your network plugged into your FiOS Gateway(your main Deco) and you will also need to enable Bridge Mode on your FiOS Router(disables wireless and basically turns it into a modem). If your FiOS model does not support Bridge Mode, there are threads on the Verizon Forum regarding how to set up the Verizon Gateway in a roundabout way.

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2025-08-14 22:27:34 - last edited 2025-08-15 13:37:37

  @MMatthews,

You are exactly correct in your question about AP mode and Router Mode. With two routers on the network, you basically have two brains trying to control the entire network.

 

The easiest place to see this is in device addressing, as the two devices maintain their own 'YellowPages' of IP Addresses, and they don't match. When connected to a network, your device addresses should only ever come from one single source.

 

If you are wiring all of your Decos to the FiOS gateway, you will need to be using AP Mode - otherwise, the Deco Router and FiOS router will just fight each other nonstop and cause conflicts. In AP Mode the Decos will operate as an extension of the network created by your FiOS router. Your setup is very close, but using the Decos in Router Mode, under another router, will almost definitely cause the behaviors you are describing.

 

If you are looking to use the Decos in Router Mode, there will need to be only one device from your network plugged into your FiOS Gateway(your main Deco) and you will also need to enable Bridge Mode on your FiOS Router(disables wireless and basically turns it into a modem). If your FiOS model does not support Bridge Mode, there are threads on the Verizon Forum regarding how to set up the Verizon Gateway in a roundabout way.

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2025-08-15 13:37:32

  @Riley_S yeah, was kind of assuming that. It got so bad last night I just flipped the Deco's to access point mode and that did solve all of my networking issues including using the wired backhaul. Interestingly, this may have happened briefly before as I noticed one of my WiFi devices had an IP address that it shouldn't have had (being on the 'range A' from before, from the FIOS router) before it was assigned the expected IP later. That was right after plugging the second unit in, so I assume it was acting as an access point because it was plugged into Ethernet, until it connected to the primary unit. Eh, whatever.

 

While I am mildly curious what was breaking things (as this is the mode the previous Eero's were in and they had some sort of peaceful coexistence going on), I'm not curious enough to dig into it that deeply or break the network again.

 

I do need to adjust some other things like resurrect my old DHCP service because the FIOS router's DHCP service is lacking in options, but that's minor.

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