@colglbo I dunno. But I wish the developers would allow it to be civil twilight. Millions of lights do not need to come on at sunset when the light outside is still fine. The US Weather Service explains at: weather dot gov slash fsd slash twilight.

  @Snort When I posted this I was concerned that the sunrise/sunset times were not being updated. I have since discovered that they are updated every 3 or 4 days. The Kasa sunrise/sunset time is never more that 3 minutes different from actual. If sunset is too early for your lights to come on you can set them to come on up to 59 minutes after sunset.

  @Snort I'm not sure what you mean by automatic. If you set a schedule to turn off 30 minutes after sunset which would approximate Civil Twilight, then the Kasa plug would turn off 30 minutes after sunset automatically each day except that it would only update the sunset time every 3 or 4 days. I'm not sure which model of plug you are using but mine has a sunrise/sunset offset. You can set the sunrise/sunset time to be up to 59 minutes earlier or later than the actual sunrise/sunset time.

  @Snort I meant to say turn on in my reply rather that off. I'm not sure what you mean by you cannot have both. When you setup a schedule you set an on time and an off time. My schedules turn on based on sunset and turn off based on a specific time.