Migrate from Fritz.box/Netgear to full Omada setup

Migrate from Fritz.box/Netgear to full Omada setup

Migrate from Fritz.box/Netgear to full Omada setup
Migrate from Fritz.box/Netgear to full Omada setup
2025-04-28 14:56:14 - last edited 2025-04-29 20:02:20
Model: ER707-M2  
Hardware Version: V1
Firmware Version: 1.2.2

Hello everybody,

 

I´m using Omada to manage my EAP AccessPoints for a long time and now want to migrate all network components to be Omada-manageable.

Currently my router (behind fibre ONT) is a Fritz-box 7490 and the switch is a Netgear GS728TPv2 PoE.
Fritz.box typically 192.168.178.0/24 is the home network and 192.168.179.0/24 is the guest network


Since the Fritz.box is not supporting VLANs I am realising guest Wifi by using the default guest net physical-port4 on the fritzbox in order to distribute the guest-vlan untagged to Port on the Netgar switch. The guest network then is available as tagged vlan for the Omada APs.

However this is already everything you can achieve using a Fritz.box in regards of VLANS.

I really want to use more VLANs, expecially for IOT devices. So despite being still happy with my Netgear switch, I chose to fully switch to Omada devices.

In order to replace all functionalities and also provide VLANs, 2,5gbit LAN and access-controls between VLANs, i bought:

Router: TP-Link Omada ER707-M2 V1
Switch: TP-Link JetStream TL-SG3428X-M2 V1,6
POE switch: TP-Link Omada SG2210XMP-M2

(I would have liked to only use one switch, but due to structural restrictions in my network rack, a switch must not be deeper than 30 cm.

Unfortunately, the suitable TP-Link models are 33 cm deep)

 

The Fritz.Box would not be replaced completely since it still needs to provide IP-phone and DECT phone functionalities; But not WAN routing anymore.
Omada controller is running locally on a proxmox server and all fixed IP devices (switch,APs,printer;house automation,IOT, servers etc) have manual IP assignments.

However so much about the background story.

My plan was to start with the ER707-M2 replacing the Fritz.box as WAN router:
I would adopt it in Omada, and built several VLANS while VLAN 178 and 179 (fitting to its IP-ranges) would represent the old nets
This should make sure hat during migration most components can run in parallel so I can move them to the respective new nets one by one without major downtime and without time pressure.

My problem now is, that everytime I adopt the router in omada it automatically assigns the 192.168.178.1 . (Omada allows me to modify IP-settings for the APs, but in case of the router there is no such option.)
This of course means, that it collides with the existing router IP and DHCP server.  -> So extremely funny for all network members ;-)

I resetted the ER707, deactivated its DHCP server via webGUI, gave it the free IP adress 192.168.178.199 so it is accessible as a member in my network at least.

To be clear, the ER707-M2 also got the manual 192.168.178.199 from me before trying to be adopted the first time of course.

But no matter what, it gets the 192.168.178.1


I tried to find hints fitting to this migration setuip using Omada, but could not find anything in the manual, so I decided to write my concern in this forum hoping to get some useful hints for me and/opr others.

I´m looking forward to hear your suggestions on this migration path.

Greetings Burdarper

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Re:Migrate from Friztz.box/Netgar to full Omada setup
2025-04-29 03:55:00

Hi @Burdarper 

Thanks for posting in our business forum.

Change this.

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Re:Migrate from Friztz.box/Netgar to full Omada setup
2025-04-29 20:15:34 - last edited 2025-04-29 20:42:45

Hello @Clive_A ,

thanks a lot for reading through my topic.

 

However I cannot find anything similar to your image in my ER707-M2.
Could you please tell me, where this pictures is taken ? My LAN / VLAN Settings are looking different.

Furthermore: From which point on should the router be adopted in Omada ?
 

 

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Re:Migrate from Friztz.box/Netgar to full Omada setup
2025-04-30 05:18:50

  @Burdarper 

 

Clive provided you screenshot from Omada controller.

You are providing screenshot from Standalone Router config page.

 

You should go to your controller, prepare the configuration there (configure non-existing - yet - router, it's LAN, WAN etc) and ther adopt the actual device. So the moment it receive settings from Omada controller, those are already Pre-configured.

 

Do you have controller at all? It is software version (self hosted) or hardware (oc200/300)?

 

Best Regards

RR

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Re:Migrate from Friztz.box/Netgar to full Omada setup
2025-05-20 09:48:43 - last edited 2025-05-20 10:46:54

  @RaRu   @Clive_A 

Hello All,

thanks a lot for your answers and apologize my late response.

 

Shortly after reading and implementing your answer, I unfortunately had a cable break in the building's fiber optic cable.
As it is in a very rural location, the system was almost constantly offline. I subsequently purchased a Zyxel NR7302 5G router to establish a somewhat unstable internet connection via WAN6-Port on the ER707-M2.

The fiber optic connection has still not been repaired by the provider, so I can actually move the hardware while the system is running:

 

Regarding your question: yes of course I use Omada.

Since something has changed in the meantime, I will now explain the initial situation again and the problem that I have not yet been able to solve:

 

The old setup consisted of:

 

Router: Fritz.box 7490

Switch(POE) GS728TPV2

9 TP-Link Omada APs

There were 2 nets : VLAN1 (Default) and VLAN20(Guest): The guest network is tagged on the switchports linked to the Omada-AP ports in order to provide guest Wifi managed via Omada.
Since Fritzbox is not able to use VLANs I used its default guest LAN Port4 als guest-network uplink to a VLAN20 untagged port on the netgear switch.

The Omada controller is running in software version on a Proxmox server. (both in VLAN1 of course) .

 

Due to the fact that Fritzbox is not VLAN capable and that I really like the Omada management software I wanted to get rid of the Fritz.Box and the Netgear switch; replacing everything with Omada-capable hardware.

 

So I bought : 
 

Gateway: ER707-M2 v1.20
(Main)Switch: SG3428X-M2 v1.20

POE Switch: SG2210XMP-M2 v1.0

and created the following VLAN Interfaces:

 

1_old_LAN(Default)

192.168.178.1 / 24

 

20_old_guest

192.168.179.1 / 24

 

13_Heim

192.168.13.1 / 24

 

23_Gast

192.168.23.1 / 24

 

33_IOT

192.168.33.1 / 24

 

43_SERVER

192.168.43.1 / 24

 

99_MGMT

192.168.99.1 / 24

 

 

So the target architecture should be:
Omada Gateway/Switches and AP should have a dedicated management network VLAN99. 
Existing devices in VLAN1 should be transferred to the respective VLANS in the new structure.

I managed to put all Omada devices in VLAN99.
However as you can see, the Gateway still has its IP adress from VLAN1(default) :


(Don´t mind those offline Wifi-APs, they are not that important currently since everything´s mostly offline.I will fix later later on.)

And whatever steps I made I lose Gateway and or the omada controller in VLAN1.

Currently the uplink from the mainswitch to the gateway is working with switchprofile (all) on the uplink port which surely sets PVID VLAN1 (default)
The respective uplink for on the Gateway is set to "old_lan"-VLAN1.

I assumed that creating a switch-profile using VLAN99 as native/untagged VLAN, while having all other nets tagged and assign this "uplink-profile" to the switch port while changing a free port on the gateway to PVID-VLAN99 would solve this and let the gateway take the 192.168.99.1. (after removing the cable-patch from the existing (1) <-> (1) connection to (99) <-> (99).

But after doing that Omada is not accessible anymore and the gateway is not changing to 192.168.99.1. 

 

 

I would like to ask you to suggest a way to bring the gateway into the VLAN99.
Does VLAN1 have to remain default? I have not found a way to change the default lan setting..

Furthermore, it would of course be important that the Omada controller remains accessible in VLAN1.

I would then subsequently move the Omada controller (together with Proxmox and the other servers) to VLAN 43.

When everything has been shifted VLAN1 and 20 should be deleted.


P.S.: Are there any 5g Outdoor modems from TP-link (Omada) ? (haven´t found any. prefereable with external antennas ;-) 

Many thanks in advance for your time and efforts.


Greetings

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Re:Migrate from Friztz.box/Netgar to full Omada setup
2025-05-21 00:29:23 - last edited 2025-05-21 00:30:38

  @Burdarper 

 

Gateway is not and can not be a DHCP client - you HAVE to specify its IP addresses in settings > LAN (where indicated on Clives screenshot)

 

The routers network ports are also not controlled by switch profiles, they must be manually adjusted by

 

1) assigning LANs to router ports, same screen as setting the LAN IP for each interface

2) settng PVIDs on each port as required - you cannot set port PVIDs until the router is adopted though because you cannot access the necessary config screen until its in connected status on the device page

Main: ER8411 x1, SG3428X x1, SG3452 x1, SG2428LP x1, SG3210 x1, SG2218P x1, SG2008P x3, ES208G x1, EAP650 x6 Remote: ER7206 v2 x1, ER605 v2 x3, SG2008P x2, EAP650 x2, ES205G x1 Controller: OC300
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Re:Migrate from Friztz.box/Netgar to full Omada setup
2025-05-21 10:47:32

  @GRL 

thanks a lot for your reply, I will answer your questions/remarks one by one:

1. Gateway is not and can not be a DHCP client - you HAVE to specify its IP addresses in settings > LAN (where indicated on Clives screenshot)

This is understood, and the settings were already made like this :

Settings -> Networks::

 

Each network is set up in the same way.
The third octet of the IP address always corresponds to the VLAN and xxx.1 is always set as the gateway.

Furthermore, DHCP is activated in each network from xxx.xxx.xxx.140 - 240 and all LAN interfaces are activated.

So as an example you may see the 99_MGMT in detail :



2. The routers network ports are also not controlled by switch profiles, they must be manually adjusted by

 

1) assigning LANs to router ports, same screen as setting the LAN IP for each interface

This was also already done before:
Settings-> Devices-> Gateway-> Ports

LAN2 is set to VLAN1 (I guess the other LAN ports activated in LAN settings are then counted as tagged(?)



Port 3 then was configured to have untagged VLAN99 assuming this would change the gateways IP adress:



The main switch of course has been prepared the same way ( Current uplink port 24 , VLAN1untagged, rest tagged (default profile (ALL)   //   future uplink Port 23, VLAN99untagged, rest tagged.


 

2) settng PVIDs on each port as required - you cannot set port PVIDs until the router is adopted though because you cannot access the necessary config screen until its in connected status on the device page

ok this is also understood and done as you can see in the pictures above.
My assumption was, that if I unpatch GW_Port2 - SwitchP24 and patch GW_Port3 - SwitchP23, that the gateway would take over the IP Adresse 192.168.99.1

But instead I lose the connection to Omada and all VLAN1 I guess.

Right after patching back OMada is reacheable again and GW remains at 192.168.178.1

 

 

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Re:Migrate from Friztz.box/Netgar to full Omada setup
2025-05-26 10:11:11

Hello all, 

 

In the meantime I discovered, that for whatever reason the gateway is now assigning 192.168.99.xxx adresses to Wifi-clients in VLAN1 . ( This should be 192.168.1.xxx ) .

I changed the IP-Address of the omada management from 192.168.43.34 ( from 192.168.1.34 ) .

The Portal was working fine afterwards.
Then I again decided to patch from (GW Port_2 / VLAN1 <-> Switch 1/28 / VLAN1)   to  (GW Port_3 / VLAN99 <-> Switch 1/27 / VLAN99 +all nets tagged)  and give it more time.

The omada portal stays accessible and all clients are still able to reach internet, however Omada lost all its devices and is not recovering




I hope that someone here would have an idea how to handle this situation. (WLAN1 (default) getting IPs from net 99 and Omada behaving like that.

For now I did not power-off - on (reboot ) the Gateway. Maybe it only changes its adress whiel beeing rebooted I may try that after finishing work today

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Re:Migrate from Friztz.box/Netgar to full Omada setup
2025-05-27 00:53:49

  @Burdarper

Burdarper wrote

Hello all, 

 

In the meantime I discovered, that for whatever reason the gateway is now assigning 192.168.99.xxx adresses to Wifi-clients in VLAN1 . ( This should be 192.168.1.xxx ) .

I changed the IP-Address of the omada management from 192.168.43.34 ( from 192.168.1.34 ) .

The Portal was working fine afterwards.
Then I again decided to patch from (GW Port_2 / VLAN1 <-> Switch 1/28 / VLAN1)   to  (GW Port_3 / VLAN99 <-> Switch 1/27 / VLAN99 +all nets tagged)  and give it more time.

The omada portal stays accessible and all clients are still able to reach internet, however Omada lost all its devices and is not recovering




I hope that someone here would have an idea how to handle this situation. (WLAN1 (default) getting IPs from net 99 and Omada behaving like that.

For now I did not power-off - on (reboot ) the Gateway. Maybe it only changes its adress whiel beeing rebooted I may try that after finishing work today

Omada Controller is supposed to stay in the same subnet as other devices.

If they cannot communicate for 10 minutes, they will turn into a disconnected status.

In your pic, they are not in the same VLAN. That's the reason. There are other guides about how it works.

What should I do when the Omada Controller (V4) fails to adopt the devices?

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