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isntallation help
isntallation help
2021-04-25 02:01:41 - last edited 2021-04-27 17:24:31
Model: HS200
Hardware Version: V1
Firmware Version: n/a

I am trying to install the HS200 in my home.  However the location where I am installing it at is at the end of a 15A breaker.  In other words there are other lights on this line.  I can't see the ground wire but can ground to another light switch in the same location.  It might not be the right thing to do, but it will work.  Also from what I can tell the instructions show to create a loop with the HOT (or black wire).  If I am at the end of the line and I DON'T do this, will it be a problem?  Should I just cap off the extra black wire? 

 

Here is a photo of the light switch i'm replacing.  first light switch on the left. 

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2021-04-25 20:36:56 - last edited 2021-04-25 20:54:22

@andrewm659 
P.s. to finish it up, you are either going to need a hybrid combination decora/toggle switch plate,or perhaps better, convert your other two 'dumb' switches to decora style (or even get another couple of SMart Switches for those) 

 

Example: 

 

Link - 3 gang combination switch plate

 

(I think Home Depot also carries this if you have one locally) 

 

Please note that I do not work for, or have any affiliation with, Kasa TP Link. I am simply an enthusiast who likes helping if I can.
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2021-04-25 07:09:59 - last edited 2021-04-25 07:17:17

@andrewm659 

An initial caution - ensure all the circuits controlled by those three swicthes are isolated by their respective breakers, even if only just working on that one switch. 


Even if the ground was not connected on the original 'dumb' switch that you are replacing (It SHOULD have been, unless it was a metal box) you can connect the Green HS200 wire to any ground wire point in the box.(if there are grounds in a wire nut, tie it in there) 

Now - the same cannot be said for the Neutral - the Neutral should ONLY be connected to the Neutral from the incoming power Romex cable for that particular circuit (unless all three switches share the same line power input) 

i.e. you can share Grounds between circuits but you should NOT share Neutrals. This can potentially create a dangerous situation. 

So check to see if there is also a Neutral wire for the incoming Line power for that switch - if there is, it should be connected to the Neutral for the outgoing Romex to the Light.  

 

"The instructions show to create a loop with the Hot wire" 

 

I'm not sure what you mean there. 

You simply connect the incoming Line Power to one of the black wires on the HS200 and the other black wire of the HS200 to the Load wire - these two wires (the Line and Load) would be the wires connected to your screw terminals on the dumb switch. 

 

p.s. there's really no such thing as 'end of a line' as you have described - if there are multiple switches and light fixtures being controlled by a single breaker, it makes no difference whether it is the closest (physically) to the breaker  or furthest away, as they are all effectively connected in parallel.The LINE voltage is common to each switch from the output of the breaker, but the LOAD (light fixture) in each case is unique to the pertinent switch, Connecting your Smart Switch at any location controlled by that breaker will have zero effect on the other switches/lights on that circuit. 

Please note that I do not work for, or have any affiliation with, Kasa TP Link. I am simply an enthusiast who likes helping if I can.
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2021-04-25 12:56:57

@Bethel.8009 It is coming into a metal box.  More to come.

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2021-04-25 19:30:21 - last edited 2021-04-25 19:31:57

@Bethel.8009 So I took the light switches out.  Hot wire (black is connected to all the switches) white isn't connected anywhere...

 

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2021-04-25 20:26:22 - last edited 2021-04-25 20:29:12

@andrewm659 Perfect - that makes your installation simple (the pictures really help illustate what you have!) 

Neutral is never connected on a 'dumb' switch (only on Outlets or on Smart Switches) 

For your HS200: 

Connect your green ground wire to the ground screw on the box;

tie the white to the Neutral Wire Nut; 

Then remove the two wires from the screw terminals on the Dumb Switch and attach each to one each of the black wires on the HS200 with wire nuts. 

That's it! 

 

Please note that I do not work for, or have any affiliation with, Kasa TP Link. I am simply an enthusiast who likes helping if I can.
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2021-04-25 20:30:21

@Bethel.8009 Hey, just want to say thanks for the help.  Seriously! You and another friend of mine were able to help me get this installed.  Even with my WONDERFUL circuit breaker setup.  That is ANOTHER story and needs a stiff drink.

 

Also, I am new to doing electricity.  Didn't get to do this growing up.

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2021-04-25 20:36:56 - last edited 2021-04-25 20:54:22

@andrewm659 
P.s. to finish it up, you are either going to need a hybrid combination decora/toggle switch plate,or perhaps better, convert your other two 'dumb' switches to decora style (or even get another couple of SMart Switches for those) 

 

Example: 

 

Link - 3 gang combination switch plate

 

(I think Home Depot also carries this if you have one locally) 

 

Please note that I do not work for, or have any affiliation with, Kasa TP Link. I am simply an enthusiast who likes helping if I can.
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2021-04-25 20:54:58

@Bethel.8009 already on top of this as well.  my better half has already made mention.

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2021-04-25 21:22:21

@andrewm659 

 

One more for you - looking at that busy box inspired this post (if you decided to add another couple of Smart Switches it might get a bit cramped in there) 

 

https://community.tp-link.com/us/smart-home/forum/topic/262408?page=1

 

See if your better half agrees - even if not swapping the other two to Smart Switches, get yourself a couple of Decora Switches to replace the toggles so it completes the modern appearance all round. :) 

 

 

Please note that I do not work for, or have any affiliation with, Kasa TP Link. I am simply an enthusiast who likes helping if I can.
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2021-04-25 22:41:07
Just told her about it....if it is not flush with the wall she doesn't want it.
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Re:isntallation help
2021-04-28 10:11:00

@andrewm659 I have tried a lot to solve this but I am not able to install . black magic specialist in dubai

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