What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?

What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?

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Re:What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?
a week ago

Hello @Maurooo1 ,

Thanks for your detailed reply.

 

It seems your situation is no longer directly related to whether QoS is enabled.

  • First, ensure your device is close to the router and unobstructed by walls during the speed test.
  • Then, correctly set your uplink and downlink bandwidth (ideally 85-95% of your contracted bandwidth).
  • Check for Wi-Fi interference (for wireless device speed tests): Try using the 5GHz band and select a relatively uncongested channel. You can use the "WiFi Analyzer" mobile app to check this.

 

Best Regards.

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Re:What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?
a week ago

  @Joseph-TP  

Good afternoon, the tests I sent in the photos were done with a network cable. The strange thing is that last night at 2 AM I tested and the download speed was 660 Mbps, but the upload speed is broken on my ISP because it was showing 250 Mbps but with a latency of 60 ms. The download speed was 15 ms. While both download and upload speeds were high, the upload speed was worse at the moment. My ISP says the CM values ​​are fine. The OFDM power level is currently -11 or -10, and channels 25 through 29 are -9, with channel 30 the same as the OFDM. The strange thing is that last night, when the download speed was better, the levels were lower: channels 25 through 29 -7 and the OFDM -8. Even though I have channel 36 configured on my phone with a bandwidth of 160 MHz, I don't know why the download latency is still high. Could this be because it's AC-only? And it's not an AX phone? When I limited the download speed for the phone to only 590 MB, it showed a latency of 60 ms in Speedtest. Something doesn't add up. Thanks again for your help, I hope for more advice.

 

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Re:What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?
Monday

Hi @Maurooo1 ,

Thanks for getting back to us.

 

First, please test at different times: Except for 2 AM, run a Speedtest test again during the evening peak hours (8-11 PM) using a direct Ethernet cable connection to your computer. If latency and speed drop significantly during peak hours, it's likely due to regional network congestion on your ISP's network (especially the upload channel), which your ISP needs to address.

During testing, turn off all other devices and ensure only one computer is connected via Ethernet cable. Temporarily disconnect all other devices on the router (including phones, smart home devices, etc.) to prevent any background devices from consuming upload bandwidth.

 

Wi-Fi 5 (AC) may have weak interference resistance at 160 MHz bandwidth, which may cause frequent channel switching and latency fluctuations. It is recommended that you manually set your router's 5GHz channel to a non-DFS channel (such as 149, 157, or 161) and reduce the bandwidth from 160 MHz to 80 MHz. Stability should improve significantly; although the maximum speed may decrease, latency will be more stable.

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Re:What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?
Monday

  @Joseph-TP 

Hello, good afternoon. With my 600 Mbps mobile connection, which is AC, I get that latency.

 

 

 

 

 

 

even if I configured the wifi channel this way.

 

thanks for helping.
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Re:What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?
Thursday

Hello @Maurooo1 ,

I'm still a bit confused. From which devices did you get your test data?

To avoid discrepancies, I've roughly summarized your comparative test results:

  • With QoS enabled and a download speed of 620 Mbps, the actual download speed is 505 Mbps, the download latency is 11ms, and the bufferbloat level is C.
  • With QoS disabled, the actual download speed is 618 Mbps, download latency is 122ms, and bufferbloat level is D.
  • Regardless of whether QoS is enabled or disabled, the Cloudflare server test will yield the same results.

On your phone, if it supports the AC protocol, its speed won't increase significantly because the router supports a higher protocol; it will be limited by the phone's protocol speed. May I know the model of your phone?

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Re:What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?
Thursday - last edited Thursday

  @Joseph-TP 

Hello again. My phone is a Motorola G52, and I know it's AC, not AX, but could that be the cause of the high latency on any AC phone? I downloaded an app called "Net Analyzer," and the ping is 60 ms or 40 ms on a 5 GHz network.

 

 

Here's a screenshot of the test on Cloudflare. 
I am currently using cloud DNS, 1.1.1.1 and 1.0.0.1
Test performed on PC with cable

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Re:What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?
Thursday

Hello @Maurooo1,

 

So you only tested it on a Motorola G52 client, right? If so, it's also possible there's latency on the client side.

 

Please do comparative testing:
1. Test the router's speed and latency on different devices.
2. Test the Motorola G52's speed and latency on different networks.

 

 

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Re:What Can I Do If QoS Enabled Causes BufferBloat and High Latency on My Router After Firmware Update?
Thursday - last edited Thursday

  @Joseph-TP 

Good afternoon, here's a screenshot of the test performed on the Motorola G52.

 

https://ibb.co/GQ6ypSJL

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