@Kevin_z also i am using AI QoS at the moment without having any type of profiles. I have it only ON because somehow it is better than using the suggested profiles.

 Hi @Kevin_Z ,

Thank you for your reply I appreciate it.

I am doing other test using the gaming port and upnp and basically the gaming port bufferbloat like 2 - 6 ms on the upload. The download site is fine 0+ latency. I have been testing it with AI QoS but without profiles and it has been working better than having profiles.

To go about the test of console. Basically what i did i played offline without any connectivity to the router, thus with the physical cable out. Than i just placed the cable in the gaming port and my game just changed completely, thus slowed down and did not play well. At this moment my console was not connected to the internet, only physically connected. Meaning, physically connected but i switched off the console connection to the router. Things were the same. What i did to know that the router was the issue, at this time, disconnect again physically and play offline again. Everything played good and smooth. Again when connecting it did the same.

I went to do a lot of ping testing to the gateway while playing now with the console connected to the router, receiving IP etc. But still not connected to the ISP modem (internet). I noticed a lot of jitter when i press some buttons on my console, i noticed sometimes my ping would spike when testing through my pc.

Basically how it affected the game was: it was not smooth, so when i press a button it felt like bufferbloating or sluggish, slow, and felt like stuck in mud. So that was basically how the game felt when it was connected.

Now i am using AI QOS without profile, upnp, gaming port and it felt better. Most of the time the sluggish feeling etc. the tp link page and all my other devices were feeling slow etc. 

The tp link is now more responsive because i switched off in Accessability > Hide animation. This was for me a work around waiting till you guys have this router become the best.

Now my network feels more responsive and also gaming. But i switched off a lot of stuff, like I told in the previously. Which i think that gaming router should already come optimize for gaming (plug and play). 

I hope my explanation help you guys for the next firmware release.

If you need me to explain anything else please let me know.

  @Kevin_Z  Any news on a new firmware? Version 1.3.2 caused unstable Wi-Fi, so I downgraded to 1.3.1.

I have noticed my router got a lot more stable on the wireless side on all freqs after I went from scheduled daily/weekly reboots to monthly ones (I suspect the feature might be broken), I'm running 1.3.2 beta version (not the one from the website) and by far this has been working near perfectly since I bought this device.

I'm still not able to use Tether app at all tho, client list is always empty, also if I log with my TP-Link account within the router page the session will not be saved and page would ask for credentials over and over again.

  @Kevin_Z 

I finally received my GL.iNet Flint 3 Wi-Fi 7 router to compare, and with SQM and QoS enabled I’m getting an A+ bufferbloat score something I’ve never achieved before. I can’t get anywhere close to that with the GE800.

I’m also not experiencing ping spikes or unstable packet loss like I do with the GE800 when the Qos is activate. I tested both routers back-to-back to compare, but the GE800 still performs poorly, which is wild.

I’ve tried every available firmware for the GE800, but with no real success.

I honestly don’t understand how a router that costs twice as much performs worse. Clearly the firmware problem is not good enough after more than a year for such expensive device. 

  @Vendex 

> Saying the Flint performs “better” because of an A+ bufferbloat score with SQM and QoS doesn’t tell the whole story, especially when the load, chipset and processing headroom between the two routers aren’t even close.

It’s not about bufferbloat at all. If the firmware is bad and performs poorly, it doesn’t matter how much RAM or CPU power the router has everything comes down to how well the device is optimized in real world scenarios. The same applies to games: if a game is poorly optimized, even a good setup won’t help.

In reality, the GE800 performs worse than the Flint 3 (which also has its own issues) in most scenarios. its CPU and RAM are simply better optimized.

At the end of the day, you want a device that works especially at this price. If enabling a gaming feature gives worse results for most people, then clearly something is wrong. I’m sorry, but we clearly don’t share the same definition of a ‘performance class.’ It is just my opinion (nothing against you of course) 

OpenWRT is more mature (even with a Qualcomm CPU), even on the new Flint 3. And even my old ROG Rapture GT-AX6000 with Asuswrt-Merlin on a simple 5 GHz band performs better.

The core problem comes down to the firmware, but many issues still remain. AI QoS doesn’t work as intended and actually makes things worse. It has been out for a year and a half already, and the problems are still there. 

I bought the router for his gaming capability but it makes things worst firmware after firmware unfortunately. Unfortunately I learned afterward that T-plink have a reputation to provide not good firmware.

I talked to one of the engineer few months back regarding some issues with the GE800. None of issues/requests have been implemented

I am just frustrated